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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 15, 2018 14:03:39 GMT -6
i pay little attention to quality starts.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2018 14:07:42 GMT -6
The voting system is flawed. Look at Pedro losing to Pudge back in ‘99. I don't think pitchers should ever win MVP. I don't see how anybody can be MVP when they only play 1 out of every 5 games. In 1999, either Alomar or Jeter should have won over Pudge though. Well, it’s the most valuable player, not position player, but I see your point. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2018 14:08:13 GMT -6
i pay little attention to quality starts. Most overrated stat besides BABIP. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 15, 2018 14:25:06 GMT -6
Without looking at the stats all I remember is that Snell seemed to beat us like a drum
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 15, 2018 15:13:17 GMT -6
Without looking at the stats all I remember is that Snell seemed to beat us like a drum We could not touch him. He was tougher on us than Paxton. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2018 15:15:49 GMT -6
Without looking at the stats all I remember is that Snell seemed to beat us like a drum We could not touch him. He was tougher on us than Paxton. Speaking of Paxton...if the Mariners are putting him on the block, what would they ask for him, since he is controllable for 2 years? Would it be wise to trade with a division foe? |
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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2018 15:26:33 GMT -6
I don't love quality starts but it does show the discrepancy in how good Verlander was for longer outings.
We're basically moving towards saying that a guy that only throws 5 innings consistently (but a good 5 innings before hitters get a 3rd AB) is more valuable than a guy that goes 6-8 innings consistently but maybe gives up an extra run every few starts. To me, then you might as well start considering middle relievers.
If Snell with 180 IP is fine, why shouldn't you include Sale and Bauer with 150+ IP in the running? Bauer had 175 IP (only 5 less than Snell) and had a better ERA than both Kluber and Verlander....shouldn't he be considered in the top-3 finalist-wise if the lesser innings doesn't matter? And then Sale was even better than Bauer but with 158 IP....
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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2018 15:31:36 GMT -6
"The Astros made a qualifying offer to Dallas Keuchel. The Astros were neither a revenue sharing recipient nor a competitive balance tax payor. Therefore, regardless of the size of the contract Keuchel signs, the Astros will receive draft pick compensation after Competitive Balance Round B, which takes place after the second round."
Should net us an additional pick in the 80's. Not bad.
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Post by talshill on Nov 15, 2018 15:31:42 GMT -6
However they do it, they have to find a replacement for the following IP: Morton-167, McCullers-128.1, Keuchel-204.2. That's 500 innings. I'm fairly certain McHugh is slated to fill one SP slot, James will be a fill-in and Whitley will probably be up after the super 2 cutoff. That leaves a lot of innings to cover and NO LH SP. Perez will be a candidate but hasn't pitched more than 93 innings in a season. Don't know how much we can expect from James; his season-high for IP is 116. Luhnow has his work cut out for him.
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Post by m240 on Nov 15, 2018 15:44:44 GMT -6
We could not touch him. He was tougher on us than Paxton. Speaking of Paxton...if the Mariners are putting him on the block, what would they ask for him, since he is controllable for 2 years? Would it be wise to trade with a division foe? The rumblings that I have heard is that Seattle wants the world and part of the moon for Paxton. In looking at projected performance Carrassco and him are very close and Carlos will cost a lot less. If Seattle does start the fire sale then it will not matter if they trade him to Houston because there is no way that they can get competitive over the next two years. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 15, 2018 15:47:16 GMT -6
"The Astros made a qualifying offer to Dallas Keuchel. The Astros were neither a revenue sharing recipient nor a competitive balance tax payor. Therefore, regardless of the size of the contract Keuchel signs, the Astros will receive draft pick compensation after Competitive Balance Round B, which takes place after the second round." Should net us an additional pick in the 80's. Not bad. The extra $’s may also help in landing an 11th round or later high school guy and jump up the bonus. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2018 16:24:41 GMT -6
We could not touch him. He was tougher on us than Paxton. Speaking of Paxton...if the Mariners are putting him on the block, what would they ask for him, since he is controllable for 2 years? Would it be wise to trade with a division foe? If I were the GM of the Mariners, and I traded my ace to a division rival who recently won the World Series, I’d expect to be told to pack my stuff up. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 15, 2018 16:59:30 GMT -6
We could not touch him. He was tougher on us than Paxton. Speaking of Paxton...if the Mariners are putting him on the block, what would they ask for him, since he is controllable for 2 years? Would it be wise to trade with a division foe? I am scared of Paxton due to his history of injuries. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 15, 2018 18:44:56 GMT -6
I would like Carrasco over both Kluber and Paxton.
He would be my choice
I think he would be cheaper aswell.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 16, 2018 1:45:25 GMT -6
The perfect storm is the Grienke and Goldschmidt plus 30 mill on Grienkes contract.
The table is set
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 6:05:16 GMT -6
Wonder how many 103 win teams have been completely shutout of any major awards in a season. I am guessing it has happened, but probably pretty rare.
Final award tally?
One Silver Slugger- Altuve
One gold glove- Kuechel
Sounds like we are about a .500 team doesn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 6:07:53 GMT -6
The perfect storm is the Grienke and Goldschmidt plus 30 mill on Grienkes contract. The table is set The fact that Goldschmidt has put up the numbers with a relatively medicore Dback lineup around him? Just think how he will do with a Altuve, Correa (healthy) , Springer, and Bregman surrounding him. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 16, 2018 8:17:07 GMT -6
That's what um saying. Two birds one stone.
It in itself would be worth the move.
You could pay Grienkes entire 2019 salary and split the 30on his remaining two years
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Post by Saint on Nov 16, 2018 8:32:59 GMT -6
Wonder how many 103 win teams have been completely shutout of any major awards in a season. I am guessing it has happened, but probably pretty rare. Final award tally? One Silver Slugger- Altuve One gold glove- Kuechel Sounds like we are about a .500 team doesn't it? Yes, until you see that we had two of the top-5 CY finishers, and have two MVP candidates in the top-15. Altuve ended up 13th despite missing over 20 games and having a down year. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 16, 2018 9:44:31 GMT -6
Jon Morosi: “In trade talks, Marlins continue to insist on Kyle Tucker or Forrest Whitley being part of any successful Astros offer for J.T. Realmuto”.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 16, 2018 10:15:26 GMT -6
Jon Morosi: “In trade talks, Marlins continue to insist on Kyle Tucker or Forrest Whitley being part of any successful Astros offer for J.T. Realmuto”. I would only deal Kyle Tucker. And I would do the deal asap. I would rather have him here ready rather then late crash coursing To me its J.T.Realmuto or Yadmani Grandal. I would be ok with Wilson Ramos But I would rather ha e the youth of Realmuto. Kyle Tucker, Max Stassi and a low level for J.T. Realmuto ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 11:10:24 GMT -6
I see the Ass of Diamonds is lurking as we speak, That F'er has balls showing his face around here.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 16, 2018 12:21:15 GMT -6
I see the Ass of Diamonds is lurking as we speak, That F'er has balls showing his face around here. He has to know his team has 0 chance this next year...I am still hoping they do something ridiculous and offer a huge contract to Keuchel, Machado or Harper.... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 16, 2018 12:21:40 GMT -6
I see the Ass of Diamonds is lurking as we speak, That F'er has balls showing his face around here. Or maybe they can trade for Miguel Cabrera and his contract. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 16, 2018 13:46:17 GMT -6
I see the Ass of Diamonds is lurking as we speak, That F'er has balls showing his face around here. Or maybe they can trade for Miguel Cabrera and his contract. That would be interesting I'd Tigers paid a boat load of cash |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 16, 2018 14:13:20 GMT -6
Interesting note the Astros are searching for a Starting Pitcher Via trade rather then FA.
They could add 2 but one for sure.
Other then that there is still alot of focus on J.T. Realmuto
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 16, 2018 14:14:35 GMT -6
I see the Ass of Diamonds is lurking as we speak, That F'er has balls showing his face around here. Or maybe they can trade for Miguel Cabrera and his contract. Maybe they will give Harper nearly $500,000.000 for 10 years.  |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 16, 2018 14:59:35 GMT -6
Jeff Mathis is a Ranger
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 16, 2018 18:31:17 GMT -6
Or maybe they can trade for Miguel Cabrera and his contract. Maybe they will give Harper nearly $500,000.000 for 10 years. That would be perfect |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 16, 2018 20:03:37 GMT -6
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