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Post by m240 on Jan 27, 2019 16:46:09 GMT -6
Damn it just occurred to me that with the beneifts counting against the luxury tax number and Doug was right it does, then we really could not add someone like Grienke without them taking back some of his money even if they gave him to us free of charge or unless they took back someone else like Reddick.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 17:01:16 GMT -6
Glad to see you give your history on these boards, punkass. I have been on Astros boards for at least 20 years myself and I was on a Rangers board for awhile before the Astros moved to the AL. I have followed the team since they came in as the Colt .45s. Listened to Gene Elston, Loel Passe, and Al Helfer do the games on radio. First board I was on was back in 1998. Had some clown calling himself Speedy08 trying to run it. Also guys like Lamearm, MrJedi2, and some bitch that went by Astrogirl,. Then, an atheist going by Ray Kerby started Astros Daily and eventually came to other boards to stir up crap. I don't need an old fool like you to educate me on Astros boards. You think anyone is a threat who doesn't fall for your BS, especially saying you were off the board for awhile "down in Florida working with All-Stars".  As for an avatar for you, since you are now known as punk ass, I suggest you change yours to Pee Wee Herman. I remember Kerby what a sleaze ball that guy was. Always talking about what a bunch of low life's the guys in the military were. What did you call yourself back then When I got on the first Astros board, I was very new to computers and it was the first board I joined. I didn't know I should come up with a fictitious name so I used my last name and an initial. I had rather not put that name on this board since I learned better than to use my actual name. I also used a couple of other names on that board....one I remember is Astrofanatic. I also used Dr.RichardKimble.....  Kerby hated the military and referred to the virgin Mary as a street whore and Jesus as her bastard son. He was a pure piece of shit. I think Astrosdoug may have been on that board, too. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 27, 2019 17:22:59 GMT -6
Damn it just occurred to me that with the beneifts counting against the luxury tax number and Doug was right it does, then we really could not add someone like Grienke without them taking back some of his money even if they gave him to us free of charge or unless they took back someone else like Reddick.
the full-court press for Realmuto, cause team payroll indicates we should be in win-now mode. Astro owners of yore never would've overpaid for what Yuli and Reddick have produced, and in a way
Crane deserves credit for that
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 27, 2019 17:35:33 GMT -6
I don't think Luhnow is interested in Harper so much as he needs a left-handed bat from somewhere with McCann and Marwin exiting. That's why I think Logan Morrison's got a good shot
wearing a Stros uni next season. The new backup catcher bats left if I'm not mistaken Talshill wins the trophy for being the first to suggest this offseason that Castellanos would be a good trade target when he responded to abregmanfan posting the link to the MLBTR article. Bear..., you get a participation trophy for being the first to respond to talshill.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 27, 2019 17:39:56 GMT -6
No. That statement is patently false. He just won't give in to unreasonable demands. That is his job, not just completing trades. He is supposed to complete advantageous trades. I have always felt that our friend Marshall is maybe on the spectrum. He often lacks the ability to pick up on subtleties such as this. Very concrete thinker. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 27, 2019 17:40:24 GMT -6
I know you undervalue him. So we'll agree to disagree. But the fact of the matter is, he's cheap to keep right now. So it's painfully obvious the Tigers will keep him unless the return is based more on his potential and rookie year than the struggles he had last year.
fwiw, I was accused of thinking too highly of Max Scherzer when the Tigers first acquired him. Will Michael get to that level? Who knows? But that is his ceiling.
We have the Tigers basing what they would accept on what they think Fulmer is capable of doing vs. another team's offer based on what he has already done. lf a deal is made, you have to meet in the middle somewhere/ What he HAS done is why I would not give them either Tucker or Whitley.
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 27, 2019 17:42:35 GMT -6
He's making fun of a forum-member who keeps saying Luhnow is being lazy and not trying to improve the ML roster I have always felt that our friend Marshall is maybe on the spectrum. He often lacks the ability to pick up on subtleties such as this. Very concrete thinker.
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Post by m240 on Jan 27, 2019 17:51:02 GMT -6
He's making fun of a forum-member who keeps saying Luhnow is being lazy and not trying to improve the ML roster I have always felt that our friend Marshall is maybe on the spectrum. He often lacks the ability to pick up on subtleties such as this. Very concrete thinker. I have often been told, (usually by my wife), that my logic is just like concrete, all mixed up and firmly set. |
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Post by m240 on Jan 27, 2019 17:55:19 GMT -6
I remember Kerby what a sleaze ball that guy was. Always talking about what a bunch of low life's the guys in the military were. What did you call yourself back then When I got on the first Astros board, I was very new to computers and it was the first board I joined. I didn't know I should come up with a fictitious name so I used my last name and an initial. I had rather not put that name on this board since I learned better than to use my actual name. I also used a couple of other names on that board....one I remember is Astrofanatic. I also used Dr.RichardKimble..... Kerby hated the military and referred to the virgin Mary as a street whore and Jesus as her bastard son. He was a pure piece of shit. I think Astrosdoug may have been on that board, too. I once got into an argument with Kerby about the strength of character of the men in the military and his opinion that the men who went to vietnam were all baby killers and rapist. He tried to quote statistics on this and I basically sewed his mouth shut. Proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was as wrong as someone could be. He attempted to use statistics on the population as a whole and the relative crime rates versus using age and gender specifice stats. He was one sorry ass clown. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 27, 2019 17:55:37 GMT -6
fwiw, the first direct mention I can find of Nick Castellanos as a trade target on this board was by m240 and that was well in advance of last year's trade deadline. We had gotten into a discussion back in May of guys who might make good trade targets to boost the offense. astrosrefugees.proboards.com/post/10306/threadAt the time, the Astros were getting pretty woeful production from about four players (Fisher, Marisnick, Gattis and someone else I can't remember). Anyway it's not like it's a contest to see who can mention every player first. Probably some people were talking about Castellanos on the old forum too. I can't remember.
with who called him low-hanging fruit necessarily, at least until we get closer to the trade deadline. If he's dealt before the season starts I'd be surprised
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Post by m240 on Jan 27, 2019 18:04:21 GMT -6
Do you guys realize that this topic is over 6000 posts long. Damn that is a bunch. I wonder who has the most. Ok Doug, time to get out the calculator and the slide rule and determine who had the highest PPT, (posts per thread), the best NOP, (not obvious positions), and the most astute IAP, (impact acquisition prediction).
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 18:07:25 GMT -6
When I got on the first Astros board, I was very new to computers and it was the first board I joined. I didn't know I should come up with a fictitious name so I used my last name and an initial. I had rather not put that name on this board since I learned better than to use my actual name. I also used a couple of other names on that board....one I remember is Astrofanatic. I also used Dr.RichardKimble..... Kerby hated the military and referred to the virgin Mary as a street whore and Jesus as her bastard son. He was a pure piece of shit. I think Astrosdoug may have been on that board, too. I once got into an argument with Kerby about the strength of character of the men in the military and his opinion that the men who went to vietnam were all baby killers and rapist. He tried to quote statistics on this and I basically sewed his mouth shut. Proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was as wrong as someone could be. He attempted to use statistics on the population as a whole and the relative crime rates versus using age and gender specifice stats. He was one sorry ass clown. You knew Kerby the same way I did........a sorry piece of humanity. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 27, 2019 18:14:13 GMT -6
We had gotten into a discussion back in May of guys who might make good trade targets to boost the offense. astrosrefugees.proboards.com/post/10306/threadAt the time, the Astros were getting pretty woeful production from about four players (Fisher, Marisnick, Gattis and someone else I can't remember). Anyway it's not like it's a contest to see who can mention every player first. Probably some people were talking about Castellanos on the old forum too. I can't remember.
with who called him low-hanging fruit necessarily, at least until we get closer to the trade deadline. If he's dealt before the season starts I'd be surprised
I think Nick will be dealt before opening day. That's when he'll have the greatest value to the team who acquires him. They'll have the option of throwing a QO at him at the end of the year if he's in the new uniform for the full season. It's not certain he'll merit a QO but if he has a good year, that's a possibility. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 27, 2019 18:23:26 GMT -6
Do you guys realize that this topic is over 6000 posts long. Damn that is a bunch. I wonder who has the most. Ok Doug, time to get out the calculator and the slide rule and determine who had the highest PPT, (posts per thread), the best NOP, (not obvious positions), and the most astute IAP, (impact acquisition prediction). I guessed Nathan. Then I checked. Anyone who wants to guess should do so first, then look for the answer inside the spoiler. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 27, 2019 18:28:50 GMT -6
I wasn't trying to turn it into a contest to be honest. This was the 1st offseason I thought trading for Castellanos made comparable sense. I think the post I made was along those lines. I don't agree
with who called him low-hanging fruit necessarily, at least until we get closer to the trade deadline. If he's dealt before the season starts I'd be surprised
I think Nick will be dealt before opening day. That's when he'll have the greatest value to the team who acquires him. They'll have the option of throwing a QO at him at the end of the year if he's in the new uniform for the full season. It's not certain he'll merit a QO but if he has a good year, that's a possibility.
as a consequence. Things are going so slow on the hot stove my sense is everyone's wait-and-see on Castellanos. The trade buzz around him just isn't anywhere near the buzz around JTR to indicate
otherwise
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 27, 2019 18:32:08 GMT -6
I remember Kerby what a sleaze ball that guy was. Always talking about what a bunch of low life's the guys in the military were. What did you call yourself back then When I got on the first Astros board, I was very new to computers and it was the first board I joined. I didn't know I should come up with a fictitious name so I used my last name and an initial. I had rather not put that name on this board since I learned better than to use my actual name. I also used a couple of other names on that board....one I remember is Astrofanatic. I also used Dr.RichardKimble..... Kerby hated the military and referred to the virgin Mary as a street whore and Jesus as her bastard son. He was a pure piece of shit. I think Astrosdoug may have been on that board, too. I'm pretty new to Astros forums on the web (2016 I think I started). So if this was a long time ago, it couldn't have been me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 18:44:55 GMT -6
Luhnow could make that deal, if he would get off his lazy ass and do his job! But NOOOO!! He’s satisfied!!! glad you noticed it,too......although most of you seem to be a little slow. For a so-called hard-working GM, Luhnow still has not done anything to fill our pitching needs. Coach for a GM who took a 3 time 110 loss team to our first WS championship win in 4 years, you sure hold Luhnow in low regard. I think the guy sees three or four moves ahead, and is sure in the loop a heck of a lot more than us hackers at this board. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 18:50:17 GMT -6
glad you noticed it,too......although most of you seem to be a little slow. For a so-called hard-working GM, Luhnow still has not done anything to fill our pitching needs. Coach for a GM who took a 3 time 110 loss team to our first WS championship win in 4 years, you sure hold Luhnow in low regard. I think the guy sees three or four moves ahead, and is sure in the loop a heck of a lot more than us hackers at this board. I think coach is just talking about this off-season. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 27, 2019 18:51:19 GMT -6
glad you noticed it,too......although most of you seem to be a little slow. For a so-called hard-working GM, Luhnow still has not done anything to fill our pitching needs. Coach for a GM who took a 3 time 110 loss team to our first WS championship win in 4 years, you sure hold Luhnow in low regard. I think the guy sees three or four moves ahead, and is sure in the loop a heck of a lot more than us hackers at this board. Also, a GM who still has a top rated farm system |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 18:51:32 GMT -6
This better not be about Sipp! If they sign Sipp, they have lost their minds. Coach.... Yeah, on the 2017 version of Sipp. But, IN 2018 Sipp in 54 games..... 3-1 1.86 era. What's wrong with that? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 18:52:11 GMT -6
Coach for a GM who took a 3 time 110 loss team to our first WS championship win in 4 years, you sure hold Luhnow in low regard. I think the guy sees three or four moves ahead, and is sure in the loop a heck of a lot more than us hackers at this board. Also, a GM who still has a top rated farm system And I hope like hell we will keep that farm system. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 18:58:33 GMT -6
Coach for a GM who took a 3 time 110 loss team to our first WS championship win in 4 years, you sure hold Luhnow in low regard. I think the guy sees three or four moves ahead, and is sure in the loop a heck of a lot more than us hackers at this board. Also, a GM who still has a top rated farm system For all of us who suffered though Timmy "Golden Corral" Purpura and Ed "Rectal Head" Wade. Luhnow is a GM Saint. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 19:00:01 GMT -6
When I got on the first Astros board, I was very new to computers and it was the first board I joined. I didn't know I should come up with a fictitious name so I used my last name and an initial. I had rather not put that name on this board since I learned better than to use my actual name. I also used a couple of other names on that board....one I remember is Astrofanatic. I also used Dr.RichardKimble..... Kerby hated the military and referred to the virgin Mary as a street whore and Jesus as her bastard son. He was a pure piece of shit. I think Astrosdoug may have been on that board, too. I'm pretty new to Astros forums on the web (2016 I think I started). So if this was a long time ago, it couldn't have been me. OK. I think that guy was called SADoug and was from San Antonio. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 19:02:20 GMT -6
Ghick said he is going to register tomorrow.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 19:02:25 GMT -6
Coach for a GM who took a 3 time 110 loss team to our first WS championship win in 4 years, you sure hold Luhnow in low regard. I think the guy sees three or four moves ahead, and is sure in the loop a heck of a lot more than us hackers at this board. I think coach is just talking about this off-season. Right you are. I have a high regard for Luhnow as a GM and know the great work he did to build this team into a winner. That is why I am surprised that he has not done more to add the pitching we need. Of course, in all fairness to him, we don't know who he has talked to about pitching and what the cost of it would be. He is not going to give away solid, young prospects on a gamble. No doubt he knows more than any of us. I have never been known for my patience.......I just hope we get some pitching help. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 19:03:30 GMT -6
I think coach is just talking about this off-season. Right you are. I have a high regard for Luhnow as a GM and know the great work he did to build this team into a winner. That is why I am surprised that he has not done more to add the pitching we need. Of course, in all fairness to him, we don't know who he has talked to about pitching and what the cost of it would be. He is not going to give away solid, young prospects on a gamble. I agree 1 million percent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 19:03:45 GMT -6
Ghick said he is going to register tomorrow. Shit.... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 19:05:31 GMT -6
If they sign Sipp, they have lost their minds. Coach.... Yeah, on the 2017 version of Sipp. But, IN 2018 Sipp in 54 games..... 3-1 1.86 era. What's wrong with that? Do you really trust Sipp to repeat anything close to those 2018 numbers in 2019? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 19:06:24 GMT -6
Coach.... Yeah, on the 2017 version of Sipp. But, IN 2018 Sipp in 54 games..... 3-1 1.86 era. What's wrong with that? Do you really trust Sipp to repeat anything close to those 2018 numbers in 2019? I am no Sipp fan. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 19:07:09 GMT -6
Also, a GM who still has a top rated farm system For all of us who suffered though Timmy "Golden Corral" Purpura and Ed "Rectal Head" Wade. Luhnow is a GM Saint. We suffered through Purpua because Drayton decided Hunsicker wanted to add payroll to win and Drayton wanted to dump payroll and get out of town. |
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As for an avatar for you, since you are now known as punk ass, I suggest you change yours to Pee Wee Herman.
Kerby hated the military and referred to the virgin Mary as a street whore and Jesus as her bastard son. He was a pure piece of shit.
