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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 19:08:13 GMT -6
Do you really trust Sipp to repeat anything close to those 2018 numbers in 2019? I am no Sipp fan. Neither am I. I am also not a fan of Will Harris and am beginning to feel the same about Devenski. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 19:09:20 GMT -6
Neither am I. I am also not a fan of Will Harris and am beginning to feel the same about Devenski. I think Devo has the talent. Just may be a little off upstairs... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2019 19:12:05 GMT -6
Neither am I. I am also not a fan of Will Harris and am beginning to feel the same about Devenski. I think Devo has the talent. Just may be a little off upstairs... Something is off somewhere.  |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 19:16:26 GMT -6
I look forward to seeing how olpapa talks about our new prospects we got from the Met's in the farm report. Hell, I wish we could trade for a few more.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 19:21:47 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 27, 2019 19:23:50 GMT -6
If they sign Sipp, they have lost their minds. Coach.... Yeah, on the 2017 version of Sipp. But, IN 2018 Sipp in 54 games..... 3-1 1.86 era. What's wrong with that? It's undependable. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 27, 2019 19:24:49 GMT -6
Ghick said he is going to register tomorrow. Cannot imagine that being a successful endeavor. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 27, 2019 19:33:13 GMT -6
Ghick said he is going to register tomorrow. Is he going to use his Ghick handle or the Wankermuth handle he used last on the old board? |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 27, 2019 19:49:22 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 19:52:48 GMT -6
Crazy question, but one we never talk about. Let's say at the trade deadline this season we realize we can't compete with the likes of the Yank's or Sox. Since we have such a young core of offensive players for the most part, and have several high profile arms in the farm do we unload our veterans such as Cole and Verlander? We could really stock the system for another solid run in a few short seasons. Imagine what we could get in return for Verlander, Cole and Springer...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 20:06:19 GMT -6
Coach.... Yeah, on the 2017 version of Sipp. But, IN 2018 Sipp in 54 games..... 3-1 1.86 era. What's wrong with that? Do you really trust Sipp to repeat anything close to those 2018 numbers in 2019? At the right price, he should be a fit for us. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 27, 2019 20:07:03 GMT -6
Crazy question, but one we never talk about. Let's say at the trade deadline this season we realize we can't compete with the likes of the Yank's or Sox. Since we have such a young core of offensive players for the most part, and have several high profile arms in the farm do we unload our veterans such as Cole and Verlander? We could really stock the system for another solid run in a few short seasons. Imagine what we could get in return for Verlander, Cole and Springer... That's a really hard question to answer without it giving it a lot of thought and crunching the numbers, but I do hope Luhnow will not hesitate to do audacious things that have the effect of maximizing the chances for more rings. My guess is a decision like this would have a lot of do with the injury situation of the club, whose 2019 was an up year, whose 2019 was a down year, etc. As long as the Astros win the AL West, the team has to play 'as though' it's competitive with the Yanks and BoSox even if on paper it isn't. However if the wheels just come off and the team finishes 3rd in the division or something, then a more radical approach might be in order. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 20:10:55 GMT -6
Crazy question, but one we never talk about. Let's say at the trade deadline this season we realize we can't compete with the likes of the Yank's or Sox. Since we have such a young core of offensive players for the most part, and have several high profile arms in the farm do we unload our veterans such as Cole and Verlander? We could really stock the system for another solid run in a few short seasons. Imagine what we could get in return for Verlander, Cole and Springer... That's a really hard question to answer without it giving it a lot of thought and crunching the numbers, but I do hope Luhnow will not hesitate to do audacious things that have the effect of maximizing the chances for more rings. My guess is a decision like this would have a lot of do with the injury situation of the club, whose 2019 was an up year, whose 2019 was a down year, etc. As long as the Astros win the AL West, the team has to play 'as though' it's competitive with the Yanks and BoSox even if on paper it isn't. However if the wheels just come off and the team finishes 3rd in the division or something, then a more radical approach might be in order. We could reload and make a true dynasty. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 27, 2019 20:11:34 GMT -6
Royals say they are close to 'extending' Whit Merrifield, though in reality they are just buying out his arb years.
Some would say this makes it less likely he is traded, but others say that if the buy-out terms are team-friendly (and there's not a NTC attached), it could make it easier to trade Whit.
This is a club that looks to have a very long road ahead before they get close to their 2015 form.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 20:13:00 GMT -6
Crazy question, but one we never talk about. Let's say at the trade deadline this season we realize we can't compete with the likes of the Yank's or Sox. Since we have such a young core of offensive players for the most part, and have several high profile arms in the farm do we unload our veterans such as Cole and Verlander? We could really stock the system for another solid run in a few short seasons. Imagine what we could get in return for Verlander, Cole and Springer... That's a really hard question to answer without it giving it a lot of thought and crunching the numbers, but I do hope Luhnow will not hesitate to do audacious things that have the effect of maximizing the chances for more rings. My guess is a decision like this would have a lot of do with the injury situation of the club, whose 2019 was an up year, whose 2019 was a down year, etc. As long as the Astros win the AL West, the team has to play 'as though' it's competitive with the Yanks and BoSox even if on paper it isn't. However if the wheels just come off and the team finishes 3rd in the division or something, then a more radical approach might be in order. If Cole does not sign an extension...Assuming that. |
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Post by talshill on Jan 27, 2019 20:26:29 GMT -6
IMO, Luhnow is currently the class of the league as far as GMs go. I think his ultimate goal is to be as competitive as possible for as long as possible and I'm on board with that. I am a fan of the Houston Astros, and to a lesser extent, its individual players. If that means we have to trade or let good players walk for the overall good of the team, then so be it. It almost certainly means not doing what other GMs have done before by trading away potentially valuable, longer-term, relatively inexpensive production for the sake of slightly boosting the win percentage NOW.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 27, 2019 20:26:37 GMT -6
Ghick said he is going to register tomorrow. Shit.... Bortaz will not let him. |
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Post by talshill on Jan 27, 2019 20:34:14 GMT -6
Why not? Could be entertaining. Of course, I don't want OlPapa to stroke out on us. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 27, 2019 20:34:37 GMT -6
ESPN is saying the Royals deal with Whit is worth about $15M over the entire 4 years... with continued good play I thought he could make around $20M through arbitration.
A deal like this will make him even more attractive to trade partners.
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 27, 2019 20:39:10 GMT -6
Crazy question, but one we never talk about. Let's say at the trade deadline this season we realize we can't compete with the likes of the Yank's or Sox. Since we have such a young core of offensive players for the most part, and have several high profile arms in the farm do we unload our veterans such as Cole and Verlander? We could really stock the system for another solid run in a few short seasons. Imagine what we could get in return for Verlander, Cole and Springer...
on the roster long term if that's what it took. Especially since Verlander would make an effective back-end reliever I'm convinced if that's how he wanted to extend his career
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 20:40:41 GMT -6
Ghick said he is going to register tomorrow. Cannot imagine that being a successful endeavor. I was only joking about ghick aka wintermute. I don't know the guy, just wanted to mess with Kermit. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 27, 2019 20:43:09 GMT -6
Crazy question, but one we never talk about. Let's say at the trade deadline this season we realize we can't compete with the likes of the Yank's or Sox. Since we have such a young core of offensive players for the most part, and have several high profile arms in the farm do we unload our veterans such as Cole and Verlander? We could really stock the system for another solid run in a few short seasons. Imagine what we could get in return for Verlander, Cole and Springer... I would say this. Verlander a top 50 Sp prospect in the Mlb. And a couple lowers Cole same as Verlander Springer same as Verlander. That's what I would do. say all you want but if you could pull. Dylan Cease from the Sox Mike Soroka from the Braves And Alex Verdugo from the Dodgers Or Alex Reyes from the Cards I think we would be ok for the 2020 Season. But I doubt we could get that on what they value prospects for knowa days |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 27, 2019 21:06:24 GMT -6
It'll be interesting to see which members of the 2018 big league club start the season at AAA.
Kemp and White are out of options so they can't. Marisnick and Diaz both have options remaining, though.
It's hard to see Diaz in the minors just so Kemp can have a spot on the active roster. But it's equally hard to see the Astros simply letting Kemp go for nothing. So working out a Kemp trade would need to be a priority.
Marisnick can be sent to the minors any time in the first weeks of the season (i've heard anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks) but the way I understand options is that the Astros could keep Jake there for up to an entire season if they want. They just can't shuttle him back and forth between Houston and Round Rock. If that's true, then hypothetically, Jake could start the season in the minors, join the team in August, and play in the postseason. Stashing Jake in the minors for half a season also gives the team time to find a good trade partner for him.
Technically, Pressly and Bregman could be sent to the minors but in reality it's hard to fathom. Not sure about Correa.
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Post by marshall on Jan 27, 2019 21:20:59 GMT -6
He's making fun of a forum-member who keeps saying Luhnow is being lazy and not trying to improve the ML roster I have always felt that our friend Marshall is maybe on the spectrum. He often lacks the ability to pick up on subtleties such as this. Very concrete thinker. You are correct sir.
I have suggested on other forums that the use of the readily available ~ key be used like quotes to indicate sarcasm to help transmit tone. But without them, I do miss a lot as a concrete thinker.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2019 21:21:03 GMT -6
It'll be interesting to see which members of the 2018 big league club start the season at AAA. Kemp and White are out of options so they can't. Marisnick and Diaz both have options remaining, though. It's hard to see Diaz in the minors just so Kemp can have a spot on the active roster. But it's equally hard to see the Astros simply letting Kemp go for nothing. So working out a Kemp trade would need to be a priority. Marisnick can be sent to the minors any time in the first weeks of the season (i've heard anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks) but the way I understand options is that the Astros could keep Jake there for up to an entire season if they want. They just can't shuttle him back and forth between Houston and Round Rock. If that's true, then hypothetically, Jake could start the season in the minors, join the team in August, and play in the postseason. Stashing Jake in the minors for half a season also gives the team time to find a good trade partner for him. Technically, Pressly and Bregman could be sent to the minors but in reality it's hard to fathom. Not sure about Correa. Alex. No way. He would go nuts. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 27, 2019 21:21:04 GMT -6
Why not? Could be entertaining. Of course, I don't want OlPapa to stroke out on us. Haha!! I didn’t think anyone would remember the fact that Ghick and I had our differences. I like to think that I helped run him off the old board. For some reason he got upset when I changed his handle from Wintermute to Wankermuth. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 27, 2019 21:28:14 GMT -6
That is a good article on Hartman. He’s my sleeper pick among our minor leaguers this season. I could see him helping out the big club late this season or certainly in 2020. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 27, 2019 21:28:26 GMT -6
I wasn't trying to turn it into a contest to be honest. This was the 1st offseason I thought trading for Castellanos made comparable sense. I think the post I made was along those lines. I don't agree
with who called him low-hanging fruit necessarily, at least until we get closer to the trade deadline. If he's dealt before the season starts I'd be surprised
I think Nick will be dealt before opening day. That's when he'll have the greatest value to the team who acquires him. They'll have the option of throwing a QO at him at the end of the year if he's in the new uniform for the full season. It's not certain he'll merit a QO but if he has a good year, that's a possibility. There are many I would categorize as "rebels without a clue." Now I just call them "left wing lunatics." |
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Post by marshall on Jan 27, 2019 21:30:18 GMT -6
I have always felt that our friend Marshall is maybe on the spectrum. He often lacks the ability to pick up on subtleties such as this. Very concrete thinker.
Make it a God Fearing Sheldon and I'd have to agree. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 27, 2019 21:36:57 GMT -6
Cannot imagine that being a successful endeavor. I was only joking about ghick aka wintermute. I don't know the guy, just wanted to mess with Kermit. I'm open to letting anyone join who wants to. Even the ignorant ones. However, the extraordinary ignorance people like Ghump portrayed on the old board would receive short shrift here. Ask Eddie. |
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