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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 21:41:45 GMT -6
Why not? Could be entertaining. Of course, I don't want OlPapa to stroke out on us. I'd might blow a fuse too. His silly little games of condescending non-sequitirish gibber is chicken shit. As many times as I try not taking the bait, the dip always gets me into flaming wars or words. The little bitch feeds on that. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 27, 2019 21:42:32 GMT -6
I look forward to seeing how olpapa talks about our new prospects we got from the Met's in the farm report. Hell, I wish we could trade for a few more. Found this at Metsmerized on Luis Santana: ”Luis Santana Age: July, 20, 1999 (19) B/T: R/R Level: Kingsport Acquired: Signed as an International Free Agent from the Dominican Republic (7/15/2016 2018 Stats: .348/.446/.471, 13 2B, 4 HR, 35 RBI, 8 SB, 3 CS Entering the season, Santana was the Mets prospect many believed would break-out, and Santana would prove may people right. Santana would finish in the top 10 in hits, doubles, batting average, OBP, and OPS. The reason why he had such a terrific season is he’s the equivalent of a jack-in-a-box swing mechanic, as he ties everything back very compact, then explodes forward with a quick bat and strong hands. Overall, he has a very advanced approach at the plate with some sneaky power. Defensively, Santana is going to stay at second base due to his arm strength not profiling on the left side of the infield. In terms of his defense, he is not a flashy defender, but he is a steady one. In fact, he has shown an ability to get to the balls he should, and he does make all the plays you would expect a second baseman to make. Overall, Santana is a player who keeps getting the most out of his natural talent despite not being blessed with height or overwhelming speed. He has also shown an ability to improve and adjust. This makes Santana one of the younger bright spots in this Mets farm.” |
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Post by marshall on Jan 27, 2019 21:48:07 GMT -6
Crazy question, but one we never talk about. Let's say at the trade deadline this season we realize we can't compete with the likes of the Yank's or Sox. Since we have such a young core of offensive players for the most part, and have several high profile arms in the farm do we unload our veterans such as Cole and Verlander? We could really stock the system for another solid run in a few short seasons. Imagine what we could get in return for Verlander, Cole and Springer... I can't fathom being in that position at the trade deadline short of a plane crash. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 27, 2019 21:48:42 GMT -6
Found this on Luis Santana:posted before the start of last season at Baseball America:
“With the Dominican Summer League (DSL) season beginning this weekend, Ben Badler of Baseball America named 2o prospects who played in the DSL last year who are sleeper prospects that are primed for a breakout 2018 season. There would be one Mets prospect who made this list – Luis Santana.
Santana, 18, is a 5’8″ second baseman who has played sparingly at shortstop. Last year, while playing in his second season in the DSL for the DSL Mets2, Sanata hit .325/.430/.481 with 12 doubles, eight triples, three homers, 52 RBI and 16 stolen bases in 65 games. Certainly, those are attention seeking numbers, and those numbers have caught the attention of Badler, who had this to say about the Mets prospect:
Santana is a tenacious, fiery competitor with a small but strong, bulky build. Santana was one of the most difficult hitters to strike out in the DSL. Santana has a compact swing with great hand-eye coordination to barrel balls consistently. He’s an excellent fastball hitter who takes an aggressive swing but also shows good selectivity at the plate. While Santana isn’t tall, his strength enables him to put a strong charge into the ball, although he will probably always have a hit-over-power profile. Santana is an offensive-minded second baseman who could be an average fielder, with solid”-average speed and an average arm. He’s not flashy in the field, but he committed just six errors in 65 games, which is an unusually low total for a DSL middle infielder.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 27, 2019 21:58:02 GMT -6
I think Nick will be dealt before opening day. That's when he'll have the greatest value to the team who acquires him. They'll have the option of throwing a QO at him at the end of the year if he's in the new uniform for the full season. It's not certain he'll merit a QO but if he has a good year, that's a possibility. There are many I would categorize as "rebels without a clue." Now I just call them "left wing lunatics."  |
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Post by marshall on Jan 27, 2019 22:06:12 GMT -6
There are many I would categorize as "rebels without a clue." Now I just call them "left wing lunatics." Obviously attached to the wrong post. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 28, 2019 1:59:15 GMT -6
I once got into an argument with Kerby about the strength of character of the men in the military and his opinion that the men who went to vietnam were all baby killers and rapist. He tried to quote statistics on this and I basically sewed his mouth shut. Proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was as wrong as someone could be. He attempted to use statistics on the population as a whole and the relative crime rates versus using age and gender specifice stats. He was one sorry ass clown. You knew Kerby the same way I did........a sorry piece of humanity. See comment above. This is the post it was supposed to be attached to. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 28, 2019 2:16:33 GMT -6
Thinking about finding a landing spot for Kemp, this paragraph stood out today on mlbtr:
"The Brewers entered the winter with a need at second base, which is arguably still the case now even after they signed Cory Spangenberg to a modest contract. But while the free-agent market was rife with established second basemen at the beginning of the offseason, options are dwindling as spring training nears. The Brewers could still pick up a veteran free agent who’s remaining on the market, but they’re unlikely to offer anyone more than a one-year deal, in part because of hard-charging prospect Keston Hiura’s presence, Todd Rosiak and Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel report."
IF they just want a placeholder for a hotshot prospect like Hiura, Kemp could fill that job for a year (or a little more if Hiura needs time), and after that Kemp could fill the UT/PH/PR role for the Brewers. There are a lot of ways to use him on a NL team.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 28, 2019 2:22:43 GMT -6
As of now, the Brewers are contemplating splitting duty at 2B between Corey Spangenberg (OPS+ 83 last season), Hernan Perez (OPS+ 80), and Tyler Saladino (OPS+ 86).
While I haven't mastered the New Math and all, it seems to me Kemp and his OPS+ of 108 would be superior to anything that trio stands to offer. There have to be decent prospects worth acquiring in the Brewers system. The way it's looking, it will be hard to fit Kemp on the active roster and with no minor league options, the Astros don't want to lose him for nothing.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 28, 2019 2:43:19 GMT -6
In the Whit Merrifield discussions, I read an interesting speculation -- that managers today might discourage the running game because they are afraid that a runner in motion from 1st to 2nd might distract the hitter and increase strikeouts and poor contact.
In spite of all the oddball statistics out there, I can't find any stat that has tried to measure this objectively -- meaning, batting average when runners are in motion vs not in motion; or OPS when runners are in motion vs not in motion.
I've seen lots of cases where runners in motion (or threatening to run) razzed the pitcher to such an extent that he threw a wild pitch, walked a hitter, or did something else that benefited the offense. Unless there's a verifiable stat out there to suggest otherwise, I would think that having and implementing a good running game always benefits the offense. What *has* changed is the definition of a "good" running game. It's now understood that you need very fast runners who can steal successfully 75% of the time or more. 60% doesn't cut it, though some people used to think it did.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 28, 2019 3:05:50 GMT -6
The Brewers have a SS/2B guy in AAA named Mauricio Dubon. Dubon came to the Brewers from the Red Sox in the Tyler Thornburg trade in 2016. Originally he's from Honduras. He's now 24 years old.
Dubon has most recently played for AAA Colorado Springs, where he hit for a .922 OPS. Mountain air, I know, but... that did make him the 2nd most highly ranked hitter on his AAA team, behind only Ji-Man Choi who hit .924.
Among the players Dubon out-hit last year at AAA, a few would be familiar to Astros fans: Orlando Arcia, Domingo Santana, and Jacob Nottingham.
If Luhnow could get Dubon back in a trade for Kemp, that would provide some insurance for Correa and Altuve. Dubon looks like he's on the cusp of breaking into the majors so it's not like getting some rookie prospect who might be good around 2023.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2019 5:52:12 GMT -6
Coach for a GM who took a 3 time 110 loss team to our first WS championship win in 4 years, you sure hold Luhnow in low regard. I think the guy sees three or four moves ahead, and is sure in the loop a heck of a lot more than us hackers at this board. Also, a GM who still has a top rated farm system People don’t appreciate how truly impressive that is when they evaluate him. It’s one thing to stink like the Padres and be rolling in top prospects. It’s another to do so as a recent champion. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2019 5:56:42 GMT -6
Neither am I. I am also not a fan of Will Harris and am beginning to feel the same about Devenski. I think Devo has the talent. Just may be a little off upstairs... He’s the only one on the team with more of a swag issue than Bregman. That pimp walk he does along with that weird downward look he does when giving an interview are just a bit much. At least Bregman has earned his stripes. Devenski has gotten worse each year. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 28, 2019 6:39:48 GMT -6
On another subject, I just completed transferring the schedule to a spreadsheet and noticed this years quirks off a balanced schedule.
AL East - 6 games
Extra game with Rays and Yankees
AL Central - 7 games
Short a game with Royals
AL West - 19 games
NL East - 0 games
NL Central - 3 games
Extra game with Brewers
NL West - 0 games
Extra 4 games (2-2 game series) with Rockies
Other than the extra game with the Yankees, I think we came out very well.
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Post by m240 on Jan 28, 2019 7:25:17 GMT -6
In the Whit Merrifield discussions, I read an interesting speculation -- that managers today might discourage the running game because they are afraid that a runner in motion from 1st to 2nd might distract the hitter and increase strikeouts and poor contact. In spite of all the oddball statistics out there, I can't find any stat that has tried to measure this objectively -- meaning, batting average when runners are in motion vs not in motion; or OPS when runners are in motion vs not in motion. I've seen lots of cases where runners in motion (or threatening to run) razzed the pitcher to such an extent that he threw a wild pitch, walked a hitter, or did something else that benefited the offense. Unless there's a verifiable stat out there to suggest otherwise, I would think that having and implementing a good running game always benefits the offense. What *has* changed is the definition of a "good" running game. It's now understood that you need very fast runners who can steal successfully 75% of the time or more. 60% doesn't cut it, though some people used to think it did. I saw a chart a couple of years ago that used the stolen base as an added base to the slugging % and a caught stealing to reduce by a base the on base % and then using the resulting change in ops to predict runs scored. The guy used 5 years of stats and it seemed to verify that in order to increase your scoring attributable to the stolen base you have to be successful in somewhere between 66 and 70% of your attempts. |
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Post by m240 on Jan 28, 2019 7:29:11 GMT -6
The Brewers have a SS/2B guy in AAA named Mauricio Dubon. Dubon came to the Brewers from the Red Sox in the Tyler Thornburg trade in 2016. Originally he's from Honduras. He's now 24 years old. Dubon has most recently played for AAA Colorado Springs, where he hit for a .922 OPS. Mountain air, I know, but... that did make him the 2nd most highly ranked hitter on his AAA team, behind only Ji-Man Choi who hit .924. Among the players Dubon out-hit last year at AAA, a few would be familiar to Astros fans: Orlando Arcia, Domingo Santana, and Jacob Nottingham. If Luhnow could get Dubon back in a trade for Kemp, that would provide some insurance for Correa and Altuve. Dubon looks like he's on the cusp of breaking into the majors so it's not like getting some rookie prospect who might be good around 2023. i think anyone we get back for him will be great but if they had a guy in single a that would be my preference. Luhnow knows how to pick those low a guys that later turn into something. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 28, 2019 7:31:57 GMT -6
Latest on J.T. Realmuto. #Marlins talks heating up with multiple teams still in play. #Padres #Dodgers #Braves #Astros #Reds #Rays Also, interested clubs not getting a window to negotiate long-term deal with J.T. Hard to handicap who has inside edge.
Another words you gotta trade for him before you can talk to him.
Some writers say Padres are out because of that
Dodgers should be done unless its Verdugo.
Ray's are just waiting around.
Havent heard anything on Reds.
Braves are there but price is way to high
Astros are there but not willing to budge on there current offer. And as reported a month ago still have best package to Marlins
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 7:41:15 GMT -6
Latest on J.T. Realmuto. #Marlins talks heating up with multiple teams still in play. #Padres #Dodgers #Braves #Astros #Reds #Rays Also, interested clubs not getting a window to negotiate long-term deal with J.T. Hard to handicap who has inside edge. Another words you gotta trade for him before you can talk to him. Some writers say Padres are out because of that Dodgers should be done unless its Verdugo. Ray's are just waiting around. Havent heard anything on Reds. Braves are there but price is way to high Astros are there but not willing to budge on there current offer. And as reported a month ago still have best package to Marlins Luhnow was quoted today that he thinks the "10 year deal" type of contracts are falling by the wayside. I don't know how you are defining "long-term", but our GM seems to be leading the charge against this insanity, And good for him. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 28, 2019 8:07:39 GMT -6
WTH are you talking about?
It only says that no team can negotiate with Realmuto before a trade.
And you got out of that tweet 10yr deal?
Wtf
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 28, 2019 8:09:29 GMT -6
Latest on J.T. Realmuto. #Marlins talks heating up with multiple teams still in play. #Padres #Dodgers #Braves #Astros #Reds #Rays Also, interested clubs not getting a window to negotiate long-term deal with J.T. Hard to handicap who has inside edge. Another words you gotta trade for him before you can talk to him. Some writers say Padres are out because of that Dodgers should be done unless its Verdugo. Ray's are just waiting around. Havent heard anything on Reds. Braves are there but price is way to high Astros are there but not willing to budge on there current offer. And as reported a month ago still have best package to Marlins Luhnow was quoted today that he thinks the "10 year deal" type of contracts are falling by the wayside. I don't know how you are defining "long-term", but our GM seems to be leading the charge against this insanity, And good for him. Basically Padres have said if you want one of there top five players we want a longer deal for Realmuto rather then 2yrs. So let us negotiate a longer deal. Marlins have said No Two years of Realmuto for said prospects. You do the deal then do your extensions. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2019 8:19:30 GMT -6
Luhnow was quoted today that he thinks the "10 year deal" type of contracts are falling by the wayside. I don't know how you are defining "long-term", but our GM seems to be leading the charge against this insanity, And good for him. Basically Padres have said if you want one of there top five players we want a longer deal for Realmuto rather then 2yrs. So let us negotiate a longer deal. Marlins have said No Two years of Realmuto for said prospects. You do the deal then do your extensions. As loaded as the Padres are, that seems like a foolish hard line on the part of the Marlins. |
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Post by talshill on Jan 28, 2019 8:24:23 GMT -6
Latest on J.T. Realmuto. #Marlins talks heating up with multiple teams still in play. #Padres #Dodgers #Braves #Astros #Reds #Rays Also, interested clubs not getting a window to negotiate long-term deal with J.T. Hard to handicap who has inside edge. Another words you gotta trade for him before you can talk to him. Some writers say Padres are out because of that Dodgers should be done unless its Verdugo. Ray's are just waiting around. Havent heard anything on Reds. Braves are there but price is way to high Astros are there but not willing to budge on there current offer. And as reported a month ago still have best package to Marlins Luhnow was quoted today that he thinks the "10 year deal" type of contracts are falling by the wayside. I don't know how you are defining "long-term", but our GM seems to be leading the charge against this insanity, And good for him. I think that was inevitable. Paying far too much money for too little productivity which simultaneously prevents the team from acquiring more productive assets is a poor business model. |
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Post by talshill on Jan 28, 2019 8:27:08 GMT -6
WTH are you talking about? Wtf Oh, the irony. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2019 8:30:51 GMT -6
Basically Padres have said if you want one of there top five players we want a longer deal for Realmuto rather then 2yrs. So let us negotiate a longer deal. Marlins have said No Two years of Realmuto for said prospects. You do the deal then do your extensions. As loaded as the Padres are, that seems like a foolish hard line on the part of the Marlins. Padres should be only interested in Realmuto, if they can talk about an extension to him first. The Padres will probably not be competitive in the next 2 years, so this is a must for them. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2019 8:32:28 GMT -6
Luhnow was quoted today that he thinks the "10 year deal" type of contracts are falling by the wayside. I don't know how you are defining "long-term", but our GM seems to be leading the charge against this insanity, And good for him. I think that was inevitable. Paying far too much money for too little productivity which simultaneously prevents the team from acquiring more productive assets is a poor business model. Ten year contracts should be with team buyout options after year 5. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 28, 2019 8:55:51 GMT -6
WTH are you talking about? Wtf Oh, the irony. Really. It went from a tweet to Lunhow said no 10 yr deals Not even related to what the tweet said. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 28, 2019 9:55:38 GMT -6
It'll be interesting to see which members of the 2018 big league club start the season at AAA. Kemp and White are out of options so they can't. Marisnick and Diaz both have options remaining, though. It's hard to see Diaz in the minors just so Kemp can have a spot on the active roster. But it's equally hard to see the Astros simply letting Kemp go for nothing. So working out a Kemp trade would need to be a priority. Marisnick can be sent to the minors any time in the first weeks of the season (i've heard anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks) but the way I understand options is that the Astros could keep Jake there for up to an entire season if they want. They just can't shuttle him back and forth between Houston and Round Rock. If that's true, then hypothetically, Jake could start the season in the minors, join the team in August, and play in the postseason. Stashing Jake in the minors for half a season also gives the team time to find a good trade partner for him. Technically, Pressly and Bregman could be sent to the minors but in reality it's hard to fathom. Not sure about Correa. |
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Post by kj50tx on Jan 28, 2019 10:04:56 GMT -6
In the Whit Merrifield discussions, I read an interesting speculation -- that managers today might discourage the running game because they are afraid that a runner in motion from 1st to 2nd might distract the hitter and increase strikeouts and poor contact. In spite of all the oddball statistics out there, I can't find any stat that has tried to measure this objectively -- meaning, batting average when runners are in motion vs not in motion; or OPS when runners are in motion vs not in motion. I've seen lots of cases where runners in motion (or threatening to run) razzed the pitcher to such an extent that he threw a wild pitch, walked a hitter, or did something else that benefited the offense. Unless there's a verifiable stat out there to suggest otherwise, I would think that having and implementing a good running game always benefits the offense. What *has* changed is the definition of a "good" running game. It's now understood that you need very fast runners who can steal successfully 75% of the time or more. 60% doesn't cut it, though some people used to think it did. Still getting the hang of referring to a post...We have always taught our runners to be active in the basepath. An active runner can distract a pitcher by rushing him. A pitcher that is worried about a runner will more likely rely on his fastball to speed up the process. RHP’s will incorporate the slide step (cause pitches to be elevated) which help the hitter see better more hittable pitches. Lefty’s...well they’re a whole different story...By the time a lefty comes set, they already know if they are going over or to the plate. An active runner can impact a lefty by causing hesitation in his thought process, leading to more hittable pitches for the batter. I haven’t ever seen a stat that shows whether or not that this theory is actually correct at the major league level...but I know that it works at the high school and college level and would have to believe that it has some impact in the show as well. The game is just played differently...not necessarily any more correctly, but that is the topic for another thread. I like the idea of trying to win the game you are playing rather than statistical trending over the long course of the marathon major league season. I understand the logic behind using the law of large numbers...just think that the most successful teams incorporate a little of both. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 28, 2019 10:08:54 GMT -6
It'll be interesting to see which members of the 2018 big league club start the season at AAA. Kemp and White are out of options so they can't. Marisnick and Diaz both have options remaining, though. It's hard to see Diaz in the minors just so Kemp can have a spot on the active roster. But it's equally hard to see the Astros simply letting Kemp go for nothing. So working out a Kemp trade would need to be a priority. Marisnick can be sent to the minors any time in the first weeks of the season (i've heard anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks) but the way I understand options is that the Astros could keep Jake there for up to an entire season if they want. They just can't shuttle him back and forth between Houston and Round Rock. If that's true, then hypothetically, Jake could start the season in the minors, join the team in August, and play in the postseason. Stashing Jake in the minors for half a season also gives the team time to find a good trade partner for him. Technically, Pressly and Bregman could be sent to the minors but in reality it's hard to fathom. Not sure about Correa. yeah, i was only talking about them having minor league options left on their contracts. in reality it doesn't seem possible unless they go to the minors for a rehab assignment. Pressly seems stable but if he were to pull a Devenski and maintain an 11.00 ERA over a two-week span then he could be sent to work out the kinks in AAA. Unfortunately that wasn't an option for Devo last year as he was out of options. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2019 11:25:41 GMT -6
Kluber or Greinke. More money but less prospects. Gets us another ace for 2019 and then have at least a #2-#3 caliber pitcher (if not better) for two more years. Sign McHugh to a 3-year $30 million deal. 2019 Rotation: Verlander Kluber Cole McHugh Whitley/James 2020-2021 Rotation: Kluber Whitley McHugh James FA/Prospects I don’t think Whitley will be much help to the 2019 rotation. He only pitched 52 innings in 2018. What is the guideline they follow when developing young pitchers? Isn’t it something like they don’t add more than 30 IP +/- from one year to the next? If that is true, they will be limiting Whitley to 82 IP +/- in 2019. He won’t have that many innings to start with and if he starts out at AA or AAA, he won’t have a lot of innings remaining by the time he gets to Houston. I could see him being used in a opener role or in tandem with another pitcher where he would only pitch 4-5 innings per game. I could see him coming out of the bullpen. Yeah, I meant a combination of Whitley and James. I don't think either is completely ready for 30+ starts. |
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