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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2018 12:20:29 GMT -6
Getting Diaz probably means we will make no attempt to re-sign Marwin.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 12:51:56 GMT -6
and yeah, a C...you still catch? I'm older than McCann now. đ€Ł
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 12:52:32 GMT -6
Getting Diaz probably means we will make no attempt to re-sign Marwin. Good. Now we can focus on people we actually need.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2018 13:21:12 GMT -6
Getting Diaz probably means we will make no attempt to re-sign Marwin. Good. Now we can focus on people we actually need. By people "we actually need" I assume you mean Keuchel. Keuchel is GONE.....get used to it......he's history,.........good riddance. Marwin will be harder to replace than Keuchel. We have guys with more talent who can replace him. We will probably end up missing Marwin if he leaves......Keuchel not so much., And yes, I would still pay Marwin more than Keuchel.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 13:25:01 GMT -6
Good. Now we can focus on people we actually need. By people "we actually need" I assume you mean Keuchel. Keuchel is GONE.....get used to it......he's history,.........good riddance. Marwin will be harder to replace than Keuchel. We have guys with more talent who can replace him. We will probably end up missing Marwin if he leaves......Keuchel not so much., And yes, I would still pay Marwin more than Keuchel. No. I've not once said we should keep Keuchel. You're just making stuff up again.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 17, 2018 13:26:00 GMT -6
Good. Now we can focus on people we actually need. By people "we actually need" I assume you mean Keuchel. Keuchel is GONE.....get used to it......he's history,.........good riddance. Marwin will be harder to replace than Keuchel. We have guys with more talent who can replace him. We will probably end up missing Marwin if he leaves......Keuchel not so much., And yes, I would still pay Marwin more than Keuchel. I think the different, Keuchel will be more missed...but since he did not take the QO, not interested in the Astros keeping him, because he will more than likely demand a 5 year contract...location pitchers are too dependent on the umpire....
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2018 13:29:36 GMT -6
Geez, cry us all a river already. Keuchel is a solid middle of the rotation guy, but just because he has the same beard as in 2015 doesnât mean he should get paid as such. Heâs not the same pitcher, namely because umpires made a concerted effort to shrink his strike zone (I feel bad that happened). No contract extension plus adding Verlander and Cole shows you what the team thought of him. Hey I'm just calling it like it is, with you especially. You seem to give up on players fast. And not recognize value if they aren't an all-star. I call it like it is too. Just because you disagree doesnât mean Iâm wrong. And what All Stars have I given up on? I never called Altuve overrated đ€
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 13:42:46 GMT -6
Hey I'm just calling it like it is, with you especially. You seem to give up on players fast. And not recognize value if they aren't an all-star. I call it like it is too. Just because you disagree doesnât mean Iâm wrong. And what All Stars have I given up on? I never called Altuve overrated đ€ Keuchel for one. An all star last year but he only had an ERA in the 3's this year so you harped on him all season long. Ah, a statement made 5 years ago about a sophomore player. Nicely played. đ
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2018 13:46:26 GMT -6
I call it like it is too. Just because you disagree doesnât mean Iâm wrong. And what All Stars have I given up on? I never called Altuve overrated đ€ Keuchel for one. An all star last year but he only had an ERA in the 3's this year so you harped on him all season long. Ah, a statement made 5 years ago about a sophomore player. Nicely played. đ Wrong is wrong, though. You donât hesitate correcting people.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 13:54:29 GMT -6
Keuchel for one. An all star last year but he only had an ERA in the 3's this year so you harped on him all season long. Ah, a statement made 5 years ago about a sophomore player. Nicely played. đ Wrong is wrong, though. You donât hesitate correcting people. I'm pretty sure I haven't brought up arguments from 5 years ago. And I wasn't wrong at the time. He happily proved me wrong. But saying Astros fans were overrating him at first was accurate if you look at what he did before 2014. Plus, I've admitted I ended up wrong about him multiple times.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2018 14:34:55 GMT -6
By people "we actually need" I assume you mean Keuchel. Keuchel is GONE.....get used to it......he's history,.........good riddance. Marwin will be harder to replace than Keuchel. We have guys with more talent who can replace him. We will probably end up missing Marwin if he leaves......Keuchel not so much., And yes, I would still pay Marwin more than Keuchel. No. I've not once said we should keep Keuchel. You're just making stuff up again. Since you keep praising him, we would assume you want to keep him. Why would you want to get rid of a guy you think is so great? And I do not make up stuff......Whenever you can't defend a comment, you say you didn't make it.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2018 14:36:50 GMT -6
Keuchel for one. An all star last year but he only had an ERA in the 3's this year so you harped on him all season long. Ah, a statement made 5 years ago about a sophomore player. Nicely played. đ Wrong is wrong, though. You donât hesitate correcting people. He loves to try to correct people,but, notice he never corrects himself. He thinks he is always right even when it is obvious that he is WRONG.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 14:39:20 GMT -6
No. I've not once said we should keep Keuchel. You're just making stuff up again. Since you keep praising him, we would assume you want to keep him. Why would you want to get rid of a guy you think is so great? And I do not make up stuff......Whenever you can't defend a comment, you say you didn't make it. You literally made up that I want to keep Keuchel when I said from the start I didn't. So don't lie again and say you don't. I've just tried to make the point that losing him could be a big deal because he was a big part of our team for a long time and has had a lot of success. But, he will get more than we should pay to keep him given the current state of our team. We have other needs and limited money. Same reason it would be dumb to keep Marwin for multiple years for tens of millions of dollars.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 14:40:45 GMT -6
Wrong is wrong, though. You donât hesitate correcting people. He loves to try to correct people,but, notice he never corrects himself. He thinks he is always right even when it is obvious that he is WRONG. In my reply to Sherwin I just said that Altuve proved me wrong. I'm glad you and your new boyfriend have found something to bond over though. đ€Ł
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2018 14:44:13 GMT -6
He loves to try to correct people,but, notice he never corrects himself. He thinks he is always right even when it is obvious that he is WRONG. In my reply to Sherwin I just said that Altuve proved me wrong. I'm glad you and your new boyfriend have found something to bond over though. đ€Ł You need a canoe for that river youâre crying?
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 17, 2018 14:47:53 GMT -6
In my reply to Sherwin I just said that Altuve proved me wrong. I'm glad you and your new boyfriend have found something to bond over though. đ€Ł You need a canoe for that river youâre crying? Never, ever go against the Posse (family)..you two need to Posse up.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 14:48:22 GMT -6
In my reply to Sherwin I just said that Altuve proved me wrong. I'm glad you and your new boyfriend have found something to bond over though. đ€Ł You need a canoe for that river youâre crying? Why? I don't care if you have a boyfriend. It's the 21st century.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 14:51:41 GMT -6
You need a canoe for that river youâre crying? Never, ever go against the Posse (family)..you two need to Posse up. Sherwin and I are fine. He's not an idiot like Corch. I just think their recent connection is funny.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2018 15:11:31 GMT -6
You need a canoe for that river youâre crying? Why? I don't care if you have a boyfriend. It's the 21st century. What we supposedly have will never compare to you and bearbryant. Itâs the model of love that we all hope to experience someday.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2018 15:12:28 GMT -6
Never, ever go against the Posse (family)..you two need to Posse up. Sherwin and I are fine. He's not an idiot like Corch. I just think their recent connection is funny. Your long hours at work led to this. You werenât giving me enough attention.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 15:43:47 GMT -6
Why? I don't care if you have a boyfriend. It's the 21st century. What we supposedly have will never compare to you and bearbryant. Itâs the model of love that we all hope to experience someday. He just recognizes the logic. Hes only using me for my brain. He doesn't even say I love you anymore.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 17, 2018 16:59:03 GMT -6
So trade for a pitcher a 1 2 type. Get a catcher maybe via trade or FA. And look at a 1B DH Lf guy. Possibly a bullpen Arm or two
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2018 17:44:25 GMT -6
So trade for a pitcher a 1 2 type. Get a catcher maybe via trade or FA. And look at a 1B DH Lf guy. Possibly a bullpen Arm or two The more I think about Grandal, the more I want us to have Realmuto.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2018 17:45:09 GMT -6
What we supposedly have will never compare to you and bearbryant. Itâs the model of love that we all hope to experience someday. He just recognizes the logic. Hes only using me for my brain. He doesn't even say I love you anymore. O dass no wha hee say.
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Post by Saint on Nov 17, 2018 17:53:07 GMT -6
So trade for a pitcher a 1 2 type. Get a catcher maybe via trade or FA. And look at a 1B DH Lf guy. Possibly a bullpen Arm or two The more I think about Grandal, the more I want us to have Realmuto. This is how I rank them based on their value and skillset and what it would cost to get them: 1. Perez 2. Grandal 3. Ramos 4. Realmuto
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Post by olpapa on Nov 17, 2018 18:03:32 GMT -6
Looks like we acquired Diaz from the Blue Jays for Trent Thornton. Â Diaz slightly below average defense for a SS but did sport a 753 ops last season. Â Gotta like this move Seems like a pretty good trade for the Astros. Good move by Luhnow. I believe Thornton would have been eligible for the Rule 5 draft this year if he wasnât placed on the 40-man roster by Tuesday. Diaz seems like a better use of a roster spot than Thornton would have been.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2018 19:05:27 GMT -6
Seems like a pretty good trade for the Astros. Good move by Luhnow. I believe Thornton would have been eligible for the Rule 5 draft this year if he wasnât placed on the 40-man roster by Tuesday. Diaz seems like a better use of a roster spot than Thornton would have been. Another thing that comes to mind about why we traded for Diaz.........I wonder if they know that Correa's back issue could be worse than they thought and Diaz was brought in for protection at SS. That, and being the replacement for Marwin all adds up.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 17, 2018 19:14:57 GMT -6
The more I think about Grandal, the more I want us to have Realmuto. This is how I rank them based on their value and skillset and what it would cost to get them: 1. Perez 2. Grandal 3. Ramos 4. Realmuto All the sites I look at say Perez is not available. I think Grandal prices us out of it. And I think Ramos gos back to the Nationals. That's why i say Realmuto out of that bunch
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 17, 2018 19:19:54 GMT -6
I wonder what the cost of J.T. Realmuto and Derek Dietrich would be?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 17, 2018 19:33:23 GMT -6
I say this because not only can Dietrich play COF he can play 1b
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