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Post by m240 on Feb 10, 2019 9:49:26 GMT -6
Not sure to what extent the idea of 'opening pitchers' might be fueling MadBum's discontent, but there was this tweet recently: "Bochy said Bumgarner sent him a text after Zaidi said Giants might use openers. "If you use an opener in my game I’m walking right out of the ballpark."
— Alex Pavlovic (@pavlovicnbcs) February 9, 2019"It doesn't appear he's open to that idea. By all indications he might have some mild reservations |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 10, 2019 10:58:27 GMT -6
There are a few free agent ex-Astros that might be doing a little sweating around this time. [br Their is a new brand of GM now, Boras can't play his game with the golden hand to rake clubs. The COB was on the network yesterday complaining that all these "Stars" not signed are hurting the game, there is only one place to look. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 10, 2019 11:09:35 GMT -6
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Post by marshall on Feb 10, 2019 12:32:16 GMT -6
I f these "STARS" dropped their price to $20M and length to 5 years, they wouldn't still be on the market. No negotiation eve starts with, "you have to give me what I ask-even if it's for the moon." I'm glad we're seeing some semblance of fiscal responsibility. Those clubs will soon be facing declining revenues from TV as cable becomes obsolete. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 10, 2019 12:54:45 GMT -6
I f these "STARS" dropped their price to $20M and length to 5 years, they wouldn't still be on the market. No negotiation eve starts with, "you have to give me what I ask-even if it's for the moon." I'm glad we're seeing some semblance of fiscal responsibility. Those clubs will soon be facing declining revenues from TV as cable becomes obsolete. Right on, Manny and Bryce want to top Stanton's contract, anything less to them would be a failure. |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 13:42:26 GMT -6
Ok guys. February 14th coming up in just 4 more days. We all know the importance of that day..... set a reminder on your cell phone so you don’t forget....it’s the day the pitchers and catchers have their first workouts of ST 2019!
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 10, 2019 13:49:14 GMT -6
Ok guys. February 14th coming up in just 4 more days. We all know the importance of that day..... set a reminder on your cell phone so you don’t forget....it’s the day the pitchers and catchers have their first workouts of ST 2019! In honor of former Astros catchers  |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 14:05:19 GMT -6
With an eye toward the 2020 season and the possibility that we lose JV, Cole, McHugh and Miley next offseason, here are the SP pitching prospects that I will be watching closely during ST and the minor league season this year. I have included the age they will be during the 2020 season:
Forest Whitley (22)
Corbin Martin (24)
J.B. Bukauskus (23)
Brandon Bielak (24)
Ryan Hartman (26)
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 15:00:02 GMT -6
This just posted on MLBTR:
“SUNDAY: The Giants plan on making Harper a short-term, big-money offer, but they’re uninterested in giving him a long-term contract along the lines of the 10-year, $300MM proposal he rejected from the Nationals, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports.”
I’m sure hoping no owner caves into Boras’ demands. Harper is his prize client. I remember reading articles a couple years ago which predicted that Machado and Harper would get contracts in excess of $400 million this offseason. The players have come to believe that they are entitled to a bigger contract than the largest contract given to a comparable player in years past and if they don’t get that contract, the owners are violating some rule or law. The owners have finally realized that the contract craziness has gotten totally out of hand. They didn’t fold to the crazy demands last offseason and so far have not this offseason. I hope the owners stay the course.
The owners are successful businessmen who will do just fine if professional baseball goes away tomorrow. The players make a minimum salary of over a half million dollars a year playing a kids game. Would they make that kind of money if they weren’t playing pro baseball? A few might, but it would be a very few. If the players strike, they will be the losers and will get little sympathy from the fans.
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Post by m240 on Feb 10, 2019 16:56:47 GMT -6
so would you do a 2 year 70 million dollar deal for Harper with a player opt out after 1.
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 10, 2019 16:59:21 GMT -6
so would you do a 2 year 70 million dollar deal for Harper with a player opt out after 1. Make it three years opt out after two if the player is worth it, which I think fits Harper. Machado is maybe worth it as a 3B, but personally I don’t like the guy so no. |
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Post by marshall on Feb 10, 2019 17:33:51 GMT -6
so would you do a 2 year 70 million dollar deal for Harper with a player opt out after 1. No. But the Giants might. I personally don't think he's worth $30M/yr, even on a 1 year contract. |
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 10, 2019 17:48:45 GMT -6
This just posted on MLBTR: “SUNDAY: The Giants plan on making Harper a short-term, big-money offer, but they’re uninterested in giving him a long-term contract along the lines of the 10-year, $300MM proposal he rejected from the Nationals, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports.” I’m sure hoping no owner caves into Boras’ demands. Harper is his prize client. I remember reading articles a couple years ago which predicted that Machado and Harper would get contracts in excess of $400 million this offseason. The players have come to believe that they are entitled to a bigger contract than the largest contract given to a comparable player in years past and if they don’t get that contract, the owners are violating some rule or law. The owners have finally realized that the contract craziness has gotten totally out of hand. They didn’t fold to the crazy demands last offseason and so far have not this offseason. I hope the owners stay the course. The owners are successful businessmen who will do just fine if professional baseball goes away tomorrow. The players make a minimum salary of over a half million dollars a year playing a kids game. Would they make that kind of money if they weren’t playing pro baseball? A few might, but it would be a very few. If the players strike, they will be the losers and will get little sympathy from the fans.
Astros had a lot to do with it. Luhnow may wind up altering the course of history on player salaries when all's said and done. The downside is the big-market clubs who've never struggled for
landing high-dollar FAs are benefitting the most now cause they're getting them at cheaper prices |
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 10, 2019 17:53:35 GMT -6
This just posted on MLBTR: “SUNDAY: The Giants plan on making Harper a short-term, big-money offer, but they’re uninterested in giving him a long-term contract along the lines of the 10-year, $300MM proposal he rejected from the Nationals, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports.” I’m sure hoping no owner caves into Boras’ demands. Harper is his prize client. I remember reading articles a couple years ago which predicted that Machado and Harper would get contracts in excess of $400 million this offseason. The players have come to believe that they are entitled to a bigger contract than the largest contract given to a comparable player in years past and if they don’t get that contract, the owners are violating some rule or law. The owners have finally realized that the contract craziness has gotten totally out of hand. They didn’t fold to the crazy demands last offseason and so far have not this offseason. I hope the owners stay the course. The owners are successful businessmen who will do just fine if professional baseball goes away tomorrow. The players make a minimum salary of over a half million dollars a year playing a kids game. Would they make that kind of money if they weren’t playing pro baseball? A few might, but it would be a very few. If the players strike, they will be the losers and will get little sympathy from the fans. I am glad I wasn't old enough to understand the last time Mlb had a players strike. I love baseball as much as anyone, but if they strike I am done. |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 18:12:19 GMT -6
so would you do a 2 year 70 million dollar deal for Harper with a player opt out after 1. Not with the Astros. |
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Post by marshall on Feb 10, 2019 18:41:17 GMT -6
This just posted on MLBTR: “SUNDAY: The Giants plan on making Harper a short-term, big-money offer, but they’re uninterested in giving him a long-term contract along the lines of the 10-year, $300MM proposal he rejected from the Nationals, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports.” I’m sure hoping no owner caves into Boras’ demands. Harper is his prize client. I remember reading articles a couple years ago which predicted that Machado and Harper would get contracts in excess of $400 million this offseason. The players have come to believe that they are entitled to a bigger contract than the largest contract given to a comparable player in years past and if they don’t get that contract, the owners are violating some rule or law. The owners have finally realized that the contract craziness has gotten totally out of hand. They didn’t fold to the crazy demands last offseason and so far have not this offseason. I hope the owners stay the course. The owners are successful businessmen who will do just fine if professional baseball goes away tomorrow. The players make a minimum salary of over a half million dollars a year playing a kids game. Would they make that kind of money if they weren’t playing pro baseball? A few might, but it would be a very few. If the players strike, they will be the losers and will get little sympathy from the fans. I am glad I wasn't old enough to understand the last time Mlb had a players strike. I love baseball as much as anyone, but if they strike I am done. That's what i said, but after 10 years, it pulled me back. Unfortunately, I missed the best years of Bagwell and Biggio. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 10, 2019 18:41:58 GMT -6
This just posted on MLBTR: “SUNDAY: The Giants plan on making Harper a short-term, big-money offer, but they’re uninterested in giving him a long-term contract along the lines of the 10-year, $300MM proposal he rejected from the Nationals, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports.” I’m sure hoping no owner caves into Boras’ demands. Harper is his prize client. I remember reading articles a couple years ago which predicted that Machado and Harper would get contracts in excess of $400 million this offseason. The players have come to believe that they are entitled to a bigger contract than the largest contract given to a comparable player in years past and if they don’t get that contract, the owners are violating some rule or law. The owners have finally realized that the contract craziness has gotten totally out of hand. They didn’t fold to the crazy demands last offseason and so far have not this offseason. I hope the owners stay the course. The owners are successful businessmen who will do just fine if professional baseball goes away tomorrow. The players make a minimum salary of over a half million dollars a year playing a kids game. Would they make that kind of money if they weren’t playing pro baseball? A few might, but it would be a very few. If the players strike, they will be the losers and will get little sympathy from the fans. I am glad I wasn't old enough to understand the last time Mlb had a players strike. I love baseball as much as anyone, but if they strike I am done. They lost me for quite a few years after 94. I hope they don't do it again, because I probably won't come back. |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 18:46:10 GMT -6
With an eye toward the 2020 season and the possibility that we lose JV, Cole, McHugh and Miley next offseason, here are the SP pitching prospects that I will be watching closely during ST and the minor league season this year. I have included the age they will be during the 2020 season: Forest Whitley (22) Corbin Martin (24) J.B. Bukauskus (23) Brandon Bielak (24) Ryan Hartman (26) Looking at that list of young SP’s who could be ML ready by 2020 reminded me that when I was a kid there was a starting rotation that was referred to as the “kiddie corps.” So I googled it and here is an excerpt from an article I found online: “Jerry Walker was 21 years and 67 days old on April 19, 1960, when he took the Memorial Stadium mound to kick-off the Birds' season against the Washington Senators. Walker was part of the Orioles' original Kiddie Corps along with Steve Barber, 22, Chuck Estrada, 22, Jack Fisher, 21, and Milt Pappas, 21. Together with veteran pitchers Hoyt Wilhelm, 37, and Hal "Skinny" Brown, 35, the Kiddie Corps posted a league-best 48 complete games (Arnie Portocarrero, 28, had one of those 48 complete games). The O's overall pitching staff tied the Yankees for lowest ERA at 3.52.” |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 20:13:53 GMT -6
Ok guys. February 14th coming up in just 4 more days. We all know the importance of that day..... set a reminder on your cell phone so you don’t forget....it’s the day the pitchers and catchers have their first workouts of ST 2019! In honor of former Astros catchers 
Hal Smith C 1962 Houston Colts |
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 10, 2019 20:17:58 GMT -6
In honor of former Astros catchers  |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 20:20:51 GMT -6
In honor of former Astros catchers
Hal Smith C 1962 Houston Colts  John Bateman C 1965 Astros |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 20:25:53 GMT -6
Hal Smith C 1962 Houston Colts John Bateman C 1965 Astros  Garrett Stubbs C Houston Astros 2020 |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 10, 2019 20:29:58 GMT -6
Did y’all see that MLB is doing away with the Disabled List due to it being “offensive”
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Feb 10, 2019 20:32:27 GMT -6
Did y’all see that MLB is doing away with the Disabled List due to it being “offensive” Is that a joke or has MLB really bowed down to the PC police? |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 10, 2019 20:33:46 GMT -6
Did y’all see that MLB is doing away with the Disabled List due to it being “offensive” Good grief. What designation are they replacing DL with? |
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Post by marshall on Feb 10, 2019 20:34:17 GMT -6
Did y’all see that MLB is doing away with the Disabled List due to it being “offensive” I agree with calling it the inactive list rather than the injured list. That was suggested on another sight, but I forget which one. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 10, 2019 20:34:26 GMT -6
Did y’all see that MLB is doing away with the Disabled List due to it being “offensive” Is that a joke or has MLB really bowed down to the PC police? No joke. Liberals are killing this country. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Feb 10, 2019 20:34:32 GMT -6
Holy shit! I just googled it. You weren't making that up. But it's still a joke, imho.  |
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 10, 2019 20:39:09 GMT -6
They should change the grand slam to the slam. The word grand makes me feel poor. You know, us poor people have feelings. I hope the Astros hit 100 slams this season.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Feb 10, 2019 20:45:45 GMT -6
Is that a joke or has MLB really bowed down to the PC police? No joke. Liberals are killing this country. SJW have taken over. This thread needs some music!The commentary before they start the song is what we're all feelin' right now.
I turn on the tube and what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me"
They point their crooked little fingers at everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat
Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it
You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if they gave you some cash
The more I think about it, Old Billy was right
Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight
You don't want to work; you want to live like a king
But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing
Get over it
Get over it
If you don't want to play, then you might as well split
Get over it, get over it
It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak
You're makin' the most of your losin' streak
Some call it sick, but I call it weak
You drag it around like a ball and chain
You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down
Complain about the present and blame it on the past
I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass
Get over it
Get over it
All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it
Get over it
Get over it
It's gotta stop sometime, so why don't you quit
Get over it, get over it
Get over it
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