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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 11:06:35 GMT -6
Seems the Mariners think there is no market for EE. Wonder what we could dump on them to gain him for the team? No thanks!
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 11, 2019 11:13:30 GMT -6
Seems the Mariners think there is no market for EE. Wonder what we could dump on them to gain him for the team? Here is to wondering if we could trade Gurriel or Reddick and a couple low tier prospects for EEs full contract and Joey Gerber? Of course we would decline his final year of service but we could essentially open the spot to Tucker if you move Reddick and If you move Yuli White at 1B and EE at DH. It's not a bad swap if we could get a prospect of decency back. Gerber is a great Reliver and could use some time to gain another pitch in to the plus. But his fast ball slider combo is devastating
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 11, 2019 11:14:41 GMT -6
Seems the Mariners think there is no market for EE. Wonder what we could dump on them to gain him for the team? Kemp. I would move Marisnick before Kemp.but that's me. Straw has Jake beat hands down and the quicker people see that the more the money would be freed up and cheaper contracts.
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 11, 2019 11:54:37 GMT -6
I would move Marisnick before Kemp.but that's me. Straw has Jake beat hands down and the quicker people see that the more the money would be freed up and cheaper contracts. I agree. Even if Straw can’t hit, is he that much worse than Marisnick? A few bombs shouldn’t be the reason he should take up a roster spot.
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 11, 2019 12:00:04 GMT -6
I would move Marisnick before Kemp.but that's me. Straw has Jake beat hands down and the quicker people see that the more the money would be freed up and cheaper contracts. I agree. Even if Straw can’t hit, is he that much worse than Marisnick? A few bombs shouldn’t be the reason he should take up a roster spot. You have to give props to Jake, he knows the right time to go downtown. Some way and some how, he does it coming off some layoff. The DL or being called back up.
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 11, 2019 12:11:38 GMT -6
I agree. Even if Straw can’t hit, is he that much worse than Marisnick? A few bombs shouldn’t be the reason he should take up a roster spot. You have to give props to Jake, he knows the right time to go downtown. Some way and some how, he does it coming off some layoff. The DL or being called back up. He has a clear edge in the power department, but the whiffs and lack of timely hits really hurt his value.
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Post by olpapa on Feb 11, 2019 12:49:22 GMT -6
Nacogdoches: Clint Dempsey (soccer) Diboll: Jermichael Finley (Football TE. Won a Super Bowl ring with Green Bay); Mack Mitchell (Football DL Cleveland Browns, Cincinnati Bengals 1970’s, #5 pick in 1st round 1975)
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 11, 2019 12:57:43 GMT -6
Kyler Murray chose football. Wow...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 13:44:33 GMT -6
Kyler Murray chose football. Wow... Should have gone with baseball. Safer sport & more of a sure bet for him. I don't think he can be a successful NFL quarterback.
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 11, 2019 13:46:25 GMT -6
Kyler Murray chose football. Wow... Should have gone with baseball. Safer sport & more of a sure bet for him. I don't think he can be a successful NFL quarterback. I don't think so either. I hope we are wrong. I support his decision because it is HIS decision. I wish the youngster the best.
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Post by marshall on Feb 11, 2019 14:20:20 GMT -6
Should have gone with baseball. Safer sport & more of a sure bet for him. I don't think he can be a successful NFL quarterback. I don't think so either. I hope we are wrong. I support his decision because it is HIS decision. I wish the youngster the best. By the time he get's through, he won't be able to comprehend how bad his decision was. (Brain trauma does that)
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Post by Saint on Feb 11, 2019 14:26:09 GMT -6
More guaranteed immediate money in the NFL if he goes in the 1st round though. Can always give the NFL a shot for a couple years and then attempt to switch to the MLB if he can't cut it.
It's easier to get back into baseball than it is to get back into football.
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 11, 2019 14:32:18 GMT -6
More guaranteed immediate money in the NFL if he goes in the 1st round though. Can always give the NFL a shot for a couple years and then attempt to switch to the MLB if he can't cut it. It's easier to get back into baseball than it is to get back into football. I agree Saint. I hate the Athletics wasted a 1st round pick on him though. Imagine if Bregman or Whitley decided not to sign once we drafted them.
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Post by Saint on Feb 11, 2019 14:43:41 GMT -6
More guaranteed immediate money in the NFL if he goes in the 1st round though. Can always give the NFL a shot for a couple years and then attempt to switch to the MLB if he can't cut it. It's easier to get back into baseball than it is to get back into football. I agree Saint. I hate the Athletics wasted a 1st round pick on him though. Imagine if Bregman or Whitley decided not to sign once we drafted them. Yeah they took a gamble for sure. I was surprised because I never felt there was much of a real chance of keeping him. As for Bregman, I have to admit, I did not think he was going to be much of a contributor for us when we drafted him, and when he had solid/good years before last season I thought that was better than we could have hoped for. His 2018 season was very impressive. He's the most fascinating position player for the Astros going into this year if only to see if he can possibly repeat his performance. His plate discipline and approach should remain consistent, but can he maintain the power? None of the projections I've seen have him reaching 30/100 again and only one has him reaching a .900 OPS again. Hopefully he can beat those projections.
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 11, 2019 16:39:05 GMT -6
Seems the Mariners think there is no market for EE. Wonder what we could dump on them to gain him for the team? Seattle tried shopping Encarnación to Houston in December, but Luhnow said we're content with White and Gurriel at DH
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 11, 2019 17:26:39 GMT -6
More guaranteed immediate money in the NFL if he goes in the 1st round though. Can always give the NFL a shot for a couple years and then attempt to switch to the MLB if he can't cut it. It's easier to get back into baseball than it is to get back into football. I agree Saint. I hate the Athletics wasted a 1st round pick on him though. Imagine if Bregman or Whitley decided not to sign once we drafted them. Well, we got Bregman because Aiken didn’t.
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 11, 2019 17:37:53 GMT -6
I agree Saint. I hate the Athletics wasted a 1st round pick on him though. Imagine if Bregman or Whitley decided not to sign once we drafted them. Well, we got Bregman because Aiken didn’t. True. But they get nothing. That's my point.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 11, 2019 18:27:34 GMT -6
I can't stand all these "statistics" in baseball, and I'm quickly finding out that I can't stand all these "statistics" in my Advance Healthcare Statistics class. Damnation.
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 11, 2019 18:45:16 GMT -6
Well, we got Bregman because Aiken didn’t. True. But they get nothing. That's my point. The pick after Aiken, Tyler Kolek another Texas kid hasn't faired better as far as career numbers go.
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 11, 2019 20:09:21 GMT -6
True. But they get nothing. That's my point. The pick after Aiken, Tyler Kolek another Texas kid hasn't faired better as far as career numbers go. <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.860000000000127px; height: 4.840000000000003px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_95075711" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.86px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1427px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_58362916" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.86px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_90918869" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.86px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1427px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_16448394" scrolling="no"></iframe> I watched Kolek in high school. He had a brother that was good too.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 11, 2019 21:40:10 GMT -6
For those not wanting Kemp
Richard Justice was on ESPN this morning and said the Astro front office believes "Kemp is going to a productive player for a long time". They are sold on Kemp. They want "depth and flexibility".
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 11, 2019 21:41:33 GMT -6
Also Verlander could be lobbing for Harper lol idk
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 11, 2019 22:04:32 GMT -6
Verlander is just bitching about how MLB owners aren't falling for 10 year contracts anymore.
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 11, 2019 22:38:25 GMT -6
Verlander is just bitching about how MLB owners aren't falling for 10 year contracts anymore. How dare you speak against Mr Upton
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 12, 2019 0:06:56 GMT -6
Under 12 days now till the first spring training game. The drought is almost over.
Watching these young pitchers will probably be the highlight of ST. If 3 or 4 or 5 of them can emerge as legit starting rotation pieces, the Astros future for the 2020s looks pretty bright. Should they all flop, well, the 2020s Astros could have a lot of .500 teams. But if I had to wager, I'd say the odds of getting at least 3 legit starters from the current crop of rookies is very good.
The hard-nosed approach Luhnow is taking to the FA and trade markets, plus the good things he is doing on the player development side, make me think the Astros ought to win close to 60% of their games from now through 2025.
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Post by marshall on Feb 12, 2019 2:34:53 GMT -6
I can't stand all these "statistics" in baseball, and I'm quickly finding out that I can't stand all these "statistics" in my Advance Healthcare Statistics class. Damnation. Statistics are a tool which, if properly understood, can make good information useful and organized. But as we all know, garbage in results in garbage out and statistic can be misused to present garbage as something useful.
I'll have to say that I love and understand statistics enough to know when it is useful and when it is garbage wrapped up in a bow.
Of course, we've all heard the old phrase, "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." That really is true of garbage presented in statistical form. But it is not the fault of the model, but the modeler with a devious purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 6:04:32 GMT -6
Verlander is just bitching about how MLB owners aren't falling for 10 year contracts anymore. How dare you speak against Mr Upton JV is a graeat player, but wish he would STFU when it comes to matters of spending other peoples (owners) money. You are a hired hand,,,,,, notbing more.
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Post by marshall on Feb 12, 2019 7:00:15 GMT -6
"Typically, teams that have been winning for four years like we have deplete their farm system to keep winning," Luhnow said. "We haven't done that, and we're not going to do that. We want to win for a long time. We want to win again soon, and I'm confident we have the talent to do it." - Jeff Luhnow
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Post by marshall on Feb 12, 2019 7:34:28 GMT -6
I honestly cannot see any changes to the roster until injuries or unexpectedly bad play occur. Even then, we'd have to call up some prospects who would have to fail as well. There are lots of good great players out there, but few would actually improve the team on the field and even fewer who would improve the clubs ability to retain superior talent.
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 12, 2019 9:28:05 GMT -6
An odd, and hopefully rare, issue with long-term baseball contracts has come to light with Yordano Ventura. The issue being, what happens when a big leaguer on a long-term contract dies several years before the contracts ends? Are his heirs entitled to some portion of the contract value?
Ventura will always have a place in Astros history as a pitcher the team faced in the 2015 playoffs.
Apparently, Ventura racked up significant financial obligations to people back in the Dominican while he was a player. Kind of reminds me of that baseball movie 'Sugar" about the Dominican kid who bows out in the minors. It's largely his extended family that is going after the Royals for money on the remaining part of Ventura's contract.
Between Ventura, Jose Castillo, Jose Fernandez, and Luis Valbuena, MLB players seem to be dying at a far greater pace than ordinary mortality statistics would project.
Possibly, we'll see this issue addressed in the MLBPA negotiations.
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