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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 23, 2019 20:34:55 GMT -6
Jake the Rake HRs off Scherzer to start 2019!!! Tim just smashed the bottle of booze he was drinking against the wall. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 23, 2019 21:01:18 GMT -6
Time for the guys to get some sleep and be ready for that bus to the Mets' place tomorrow.
10 hits and 5 walks over 9 innings is not too bad. On the pitching side, Rodgers, Sneed, and Abreu all looked sharp.
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 23, 2019 21:01:27 GMT -6
Jake the Rake HRs off Scherzer to start 2019!!! Tim just smashed the bottle of booze he was drinking against the wall. Jake knows how to display the dramatics. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 23, 2019 22:51:58 GMT -6
Same old AJ Reed.............horrible. I can't believe we are still wastimg time with this clown.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 23, 2019 23:03:55 GMT -6
Jake the Rake HRs off Scherzer to start 2019!!! Tim just smashed the bottle of booze he was drinking against the wall. Naw, main...I understand the "Blind Squirrel" theory. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 23, 2019 23:14:36 GMT -6
Tim just smashed the bottle of booze he was drinking against the wall. Naw, main...I understand the "Blind Squirrel" theory. Jake from Rake Farm |
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 23, 2019 23:21:29 GMT -6
I noticed on Hinch's lineup card today that he penciled in a "Valdez" as a left-handed *hitter*. I assumed it was some guy named Valdez in the low minors.
But the only Astros minor leaguer named Valdez I can think of is pitcher Framber Valdez, who is indeed a lefty.
Is Hinch trying to get Framber some ABs this spring? Does he have a hitting talent we don't know about? I can't see that Framber has any PAs in the minors so far.
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 24, 2019 10:53:09 GMT -6
Now is the time we see guys we don't know and will never see again.  |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 24, 2019 11:35:19 GMT -6
Alls I can say is Straw watch him. He is pushing Marisnick.
Watch Tucker he is pushing Reddick.
Watch Diaz. Way more patient then Marwin was.
Watch Yordan there is a reason they wanna keep him.
Those are the guys I would be watching all spring training.
Not worried about Reed. I think he is done. FISHER same way.
There could be a couple guys to watch in Toro and the 2B who hit the HR last night.
And watch all the Pitchers.
I think k everyone else will be safe. I cant wait to see Brantley bat.
So far White hasn't done much ugh
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 24, 2019 11:41:35 GMT -6
The first week of ST, guys are just knocking off the cobwebs so strikeouts, errors, passed balls, etc aren't terribly worrisome at this point.
If guys are still looking clueless by March 10 then it may be time to question whether they ought to break camp with the team.
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 24, 2019 11:49:20 GMT -6
Lineup vs Mets and Jacob deGrom today:
LF Kemp
RF Tucker
DH Brantley
3B White
1B Reed
C Stassi
2B Mayfield
SS De Goti
CF Straw
P Armenteros
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 24, 2019 11:50:11 GMT -6
I'm just saying the writing is on the wall.
Once the Spring training gates have opened
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 24, 2019 11:54:43 GMT -6
No Altuve on either starting lineup. I'm guessing he has taken the bus to the Mets place and will fill in for De Goti at some point.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 24, 2019 11:55:16 GMT -6
Braves game 1
1. Springer
2. Reddick
3. Correa
4. Gurriel
5. Chirinos
6. Fisher
7. Marisnick
8. Toro
9. Rojas
Sp Valdez
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 24, 2019 12:15:38 GMT -6
Bone head throw Marisnick js
U got bailed out but bone head move
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 24, 2019 12:18:42 GMT -6
Tyler White already has his first RBI single of ST. Batting a cool .333 .
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 24, 2019 14:46:53 GMT -6
Tyler White already has his first RBI single of ST. Batting a cool .333 . 333 BA that is awesome! |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 24, 2019 15:46:40 GMT -6
Straw with the def
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 8:18:43 GMT -6
21-18=3 $3 million extra guaranteed. 2-1= 1 extra year So I'm assuming you think he is worth $10.5 million a year? |
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 8:19:31 GMT -6
21-18=3 $3 million extra guaranteed. Alief math. Math math. He's just not worth that amount of money. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 25, 2019 8:26:40 GMT -6
Math math. He's just not worth that amount of money. No, he is not...but I think he would have garnered more than $3M next year, if a QO was offered to him this off-season and he accepted it....I am glad he wasn't offered a QO.... Now, I am interested to see who will sign Keuchel.... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 25, 2019 8:30:03 GMT -6
You see different chant analysts think the Astros chances in re-signing both Verlander and Cole are extremely low, heck even signing one of them was not a high percentage chance.
I think re-signing Verlander and Cole are paramount, because it is giving the team such a solid base while the young and rising stars (Whitley, James, McCullers, Martin, Bukkake) are making their way into the Majors
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 8:37:22 GMT -6
Math math. He's just not worth that amount of money. No, he is not...but I think he would have garnered more than $3M next year, if a QO was offered to him this off-season and he accepted it....I am glad he wasn't offered a QO.... Now, I am interested to see who will sign Keuchel.... Right now the free agency market is so finicky. A comparable player (Josh Harrison) only got a guaranteed $2 million deal from the Tigers after a bad year when he was an all-star just the year before. If Marwin took a one-year deal and sucked, he'd likely be looking at the same thing. This guaranteed him more money than a QO, which makes it a win for him even if it wasn't the 4-year $60 million deal Boras was trying to get for him. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 25, 2019 8:42:31 GMT -6
No, he is not...but I think he would have garnered more than $3M next year, if a QO was offered to him this off-season and he accepted it....I am glad he wasn't offered a QO.... Now, I am interested to see who will sign Keuchel.... Right now the free agency market is so finicky. A comparable player (Josh Harrison) only got a guaranteed $2 million deal from the Tigers after a bad year when he was an all-star just the year before. If Marwin took a one-year deal and sucked, he'd likely be looking at the same thing. This guaranteed him more money than a QO, which makes it a win for him even if it wasn't the 4-year $60 million deal Boras was trying to get for him. Ok, so you are saying you would rather be paid 21M for 2 years of work, as opposed to $18M for one year? |
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Post by m240 on Feb 25, 2019 10:02:51 GMT -6
You see different chant analysts think the Astros chances in re-signing both Verlander and Cole are extremely low, heck even signing one of them was not a high percentage chance. I think re-signing Verlander and Cole are paramount, because it is giving the team such a solid base while the young and rising stars (Whitley, James, McCullers, Martin, Bukkake) are making their way into the Majors I have been saying it for a while now that I really do not think that they will be able to get Cole to sign. If he has another season like last year he is going to get crazy money, if he does not then we can, but depending on how deep the drop, why would we with all the talent coming our way. Getting Verlander on paper is the ticket and if McHugh bounces back and gives us some good work then him as well. Think about this, if James establishes himself as a middle rotation kind of guy, if we sign Verlander, and McCullers comes back reasonably close to where he left off then with the addition of Whitley, and one other guy from a list of 7 possibles, then we have a damn fine rotation. If James does not then we need to sign a free agent next off season. The key to next season's success starts with getting Verlander on the dotted line. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 10:24:07 GMT -6
Right now the free agency market is so finicky. A comparable player (Josh Harrison) only got a guaranteed $2 million deal from the Tigers after a bad year when he was an all-star just the year before. If Marwin took a one-year deal and sucked, he'd likely be looking at the same thing. This guaranteed him more money than a QO, which makes it a win for him even if it wasn't the 4-year $60 million deal Boras was trying to get for him. Ok, so you are saying you would rather be paid 21M for 2 years of work, as opposed to $18M for one year? If I'm a professional athlete without a proven track record of consistent above-average success, I'm going to take the guaranteed money. I don't want the risk of an injury or a poor season ending up with me having to accept a minor league deal with an invite to ST. $3 million may not sound like a lot of money when talking about some of these contracts, but that's still a big chunk of money. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 10:25:41 GMT -6
Cole is going to be looking at $150+ million if he has a similar season to last year (using Corbin has a comparison). I don't think we pony up that kind of money.
I think we have a better chance getting Verlander back on a shorter length higher AAV contract. 3-4 years at $50-70 million.
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Post by m240 on Feb 25, 2019 11:09:47 GMT -6
If Cole has another year like last year I think 150 might get you into the conversation but not a deal. Verlander I could see on a 2 year 50 million dollar deal with an automatic vesting with either a 200 inning year or a 375 combined total. That deal would be for another 25 million. Also bonuses for leading the league in strike outs, innings, or a top 10 era or cy young year. Throw in a mutual option for year 4 and bingo, bango, bongo, you got a deal.
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 25, 2019 11:36:13 GMT -6
Ok, so you are saying you would rather be paid 21M for 2 years of work, as opposed to $18M for one year? If I'm a professional athlete without a proven track record of consistent above-average success, I'm going to take the guaranteed money. I don't want the risk of an injury or a poor season ending up with me having to accept a minor league deal with an invite to ST. $3 million may not sound like a lot of money when talking about some of these contracts, but that's still a big chunk of money. Your nose is growing |
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 11:54:45 GMT -6
If I'm a professional athlete without a proven track record of consistent above-average success, I'm going to take the guaranteed money. I don't want the risk of an injury or a poor season ending up with me having to accept a minor league deal with an invite to ST. $3 million may not sound like a lot of money when talking about some of these contracts, but that's still a big chunk of money. Your nose is growing I'm completely serious. Marwin is a career utility player. Granted, he is one of the best utility players currently, but outside of 2017 he has never been more than mediocre overall. Mediocre players should take the most guaranteed money they can get. |
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