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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 25, 2019 12:12:52 GMT -6
I'm completely serious. Marwin is a career utility player. Granted, he is one of the best utility players currently, but outside of 2017 he has never been more than mediocre overall. Mediocre players should take the most guaranteed money they can get. If you honestly believe 2 years/21 M is better than 1 year/$18M, let Yessir do the financing, I do not want Batman's kid to have a sh*tty Christmas |
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 25, 2019 12:16:00 GMT -6
Verlander looking good in his first inning of ST
Let's see if the bats can beat up on Thor
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 12:20:00 GMT -6
I'm completely serious. Marwin is a career utility player. Granted, he is one of the best utility players currently, but outside of 2017 he has never been more than mediocre overall. Mediocre players should take the most guaranteed money they can get. If you honestly believe 2 years/21 M is better than 1 year/$18M, let Yessir do the financing, I do not want Batman's kid to have a sh*tty Christmas Batman's kid? |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 25, 2019 12:44:48 GMT -6
Whitleys looking amazing so far
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 25, 2019 14:40:08 GMT -6
If you honestly believe 2 years/21 M is better than 1 year/$18M, let Yessir do the financing, I do not want Batman's kid to have a sh*tty Christmas Batman's kid? Batman007, I am hoping to pull him back in actually posting.....he mainly is a lurker..... BTW - didn't you refer to yourself sometimes as the Dark Knight on the old forum |
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Post by Saint on Feb 25, 2019 15:01:35 GMT -6
Batman007, I am hoping to pull him back in actually posting.....he mainly is a lurker..... BTW - didn't you refer to yourself sometimes as the Dark Knight on the old forum Nope. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 25, 2019 15:58:33 GMT -6
Batman007, I am hoping to pull him back in actually posting.....he mainly is a lurker..... BTW - didn't you refer to yourself sometimes as the Dark Knight on the old forum Nope. I think you did in the LNT....I said DK meant - David Koresh - because your cult like following. |
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Post by talshill on Feb 26, 2019 7:48:23 GMT -6
So I'm assuming you think he is worth $10.5 million a year? I don't generally get into player valuations because I don't really know how to evaluate them. Hence, I don't know what Marwin is worth but I suspect it's variable depending on the team. Former Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart couldn't define what was obscene, but he said knew it when he saw it. I feel the same way about player contracts; I don't know how much they're worth, but I know what's too much when I see the numbers. He was obviously worth 10.5 to the Twins but not to the Astros. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 26, 2019 9:07:35 GMT -6
So I'm assuming you think he is worth $10.5 million a year? I don't generally get into player valuations because I don't really know how to evaluate them. Hence, I don't know what Marwin is worth but I suspect it's variable depending on the team. Former Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart couldn't define what was obscene, but he said knew it when he saw it. I feel the same way about player contracts; I don't know how much they're worth, but I know what's too much when I see the numbers. He was obviously worth 10.5 to the Twins but not to the Astros. That's a very poetic way of sitting on a fence. :-P In any case, it's actually not a great question on my part. I actually do feel he is worth $10.5 million a year (although it ended up 12 & 9). He's just not worth that to us. My point was that I feel a player with his history and potential should take as much guaranteed money as he could at this point. And 21 > 18 even if it's lower AAV. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 9:59:24 GMT -6
Whitleys looking amazing so far One of the highest touted prospects in MiLb. If he pans as hoped, I am hoping for a year or two of a Verlander - Cole - Whitley tandem that will be one of the most potent 3/5 of a rotation since the 1990's Braves. Can you imagine facing us in a best 3 of 5? |
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Post by Saint on Feb 26, 2019 11:30:21 GMT -6
Arenado signs an 8-year $260 million extension. If Correa gets healthy and Bregman continues his 2018 production, that's the kind of money they're going to be wanting in a couple years.
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 26, 2019 11:43:49 GMT -6
Arenado signs an 8-year $260 million extension. If Correa gets healthy and Bregman continues his 2018 production, that's the kind of money they're going to be wanting in a couple years. At this point, can change, but I would think Bregman is the one of the two they should consider that type of extension. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Feb 26, 2019 12:21:53 GMT -6
Arenado signs an 8-year $260 million extension. If Correa gets healthy and Bregman continues his 2018 production, that's the kind of money they're going to be wanting in a couple years. At this point, can change, but I would think Bregman is the one of the two they should consider that type of extension. I think we need to make sure Bregman wasn't a fluke last year before we start offering him $200+ million dollars. Correa in 2017 was not the same as Correa in 2018...Bregman may well have a similar fall off. Or, he may get better and deserve every penny. But, not today. And probably not tomorrow, either. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 26, 2019 12:49:18 GMT -6
The Vietnamese postal service is issuing a Trump-Kim Summit stamp.
They say it's crazy in Hanoi now, thousands of soldiers/police on the streets, roads closed, armored personnel carriers everywhere. Glad to be far away from the excitement.
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 26, 2019 14:01:43 GMT -6
At this point, can change, but I would think Bregman is the one of the two they should consider that type of extension. I think we need to make sure Bregman wasn't a fluke last year before we start offering him $200+ million dollars. Correa in 2017 was not the same as Correa in 2018...Bregman may well have a similar fall off. Or, he may get better and deserve every penny. But, not today. And probably not tomorrow, either.
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 26, 2019 14:11:28 GMT -6
I think we need to make sure Bregman wasn't a fluke last year before we start offering him $200+ million dollars. Correa in 2017 was not the same as Correa in 2018...Bregman may well have a similar fall off. Or, he may get better and deserve every penny. But, not today. And probably not tomorrow, either.
being in the majorsI just hope he doesn’t get in his head too much. Athletes often get caught up in “building their brand”, which adds unneeded pressure and adds to what’s already on their plates. |
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 26, 2019 14:18:33 GMT -6
even if Bregman isn't a fluke he's almost certain to regress from the banner season he had. And it's gonna suck cause of how cocky he is even though he's had multiple cold streaks since
being in the majors I just hope he doesn’t get in his head too much. Athletes often get caught up in “building their brand”, which adds unneeded pressure and adds to what’s already on their plates. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 26, 2019 14:23:57 GMT -6
Bregman is still earning the league minimum and claims to spend over $200K/year for his sophisticated fitness program, personal chef, etc.
I think it's one reason he is so eager to develop extra revenue streams.
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 26, 2019 14:46:03 GMT -6
Keuchel really shooting himself in the foot by not being in camp and getting in some innings against real hitters.
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Post by Saint on Feb 26, 2019 15:38:22 GMT -6
Kimbrel too.
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Post by Saint on Feb 26, 2019 15:44:39 GMT -6
I think Bregman will be the opposite of Correa, Altuve, Reddick and Gurriel. I expect those others to outperform their 2018 numbers but not quite reach their 2017 numbers. I expect Bregman to be worse than his 2018 numbers but better than 2017.
All health-dependent of course.
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Post by m240 on Feb 26, 2019 16:15:14 GMT -6
Keuchel really shooting himself in the foot by not being in camp and getting in some innings against real hitters. Keuchel is probably really pissed off at Boras right about now. Think about it, if he had of been a little more reasonable sooner then he would be signed and in somebody's camp by now. Instead he got greedy and now is out there flopping in the breeze. Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. |
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Post by m240 on Feb 26, 2019 16:16:57 GMT -6
I think Bregman will be the opposite of Correa, Altuve, Reddick and Gurriel. I expect those others to outperform their 2018 numbers but not quite reach their 2017 numbers. I expect Bregman to be worse than his 2018 numbers but better than 2017. All health-dependent of course. That I think is a fair assessment. But what if Bregman just gets better, til he takes a step back you never know how good he really can be. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 26, 2019 16:18:54 GMT -6
I think Bregman will be the opposite of Correa, Altuve, Reddick and Gurriel. I expect those others to outperform their 2018 numbers but not quite reach their 2017 numbers. I expect Bregman to be worse than his 2018 numbers but better than 2017. All health-dependent of course. I think Bregs can hit 25 bombs. The doubles might be harder to do. Not everyone can be Albert Belle. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 26, 2019 17:02:00 GMT -6
I think Bregman will be the opposite of Correa, Altuve, Reddick and Gurriel. I expect those others to outperform their 2018 numbers but not quite reach their 2017 numbers. I expect Bregman to be worse than his 2018 numbers but better than 2017. All health-dependent of course. I think Bregs can hit 25 bombs. The doubles might be harder to do. Not everyone can be Albert Belle. 25/40 is a good +/- for him on those numbers. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 26, 2019 17:40:30 GMT -6
Keuchel really shooting himself in the foot by not being in camp and getting in some innings against real hitters. Keuchel is probably really pissed off at Boras right about now. Think about it, if he had of been a little more reasonable sooner then he would be signed and in somebody's camp by now. Instead he got greedy and now is out there flopping in the breeze. Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. Keuchel is getting what he deserves for having an asshole like Boras for his agent. I have no sympathy for him......we gave him a decent QO and he declined |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 26, 2019 17:41:52 GMT -6
I think Bregman will be the opposite of Correa, Altuve, Reddick and Gurriel. I expect those others to outperform their 2018 numbers but not quite reach their 2017 numbers. I expect Bregman to be worse than his 2018 numbers but better than 2017. All health-dependent of course. I think Bregs can hit 25 bombs. The doubles might be harder to do. Not everyone can be Albert Belle. He will have a better year if he concentrates on playing the game and not worrying about getting so much attention. |
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Post by marshall on Feb 26, 2019 18:04:54 GMT -6
I think Bregman will be the opposite of Correa, Altuve, Reddick and Gurriel. I expect those others to outperform their 2018 numbers but not quite reach their 2017 numbers. I expect Bregman to be worse than his 2018 numbers but better than 2017. All health-dependent of course. That I think is a fair assessment. But what if Bregman just gets better, til he takes a step back you never know how good he really can be. I think there is an equal chance that he regresses or continues to become a $30-$36M dollar man with sustained WAR over 6/Yr. I love his approach at the plate and high contact rate WITH power. Right now he's averaging 4.92248062 WAR/600 PA which includes his adjustment to MLB play. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 26, 2019 21:37:28 GMT -6
The Vietnamese postal service is issuing a Trump-Kim Summit stamp. They say it's crazy in Hanoi now, thousands of soldiers/police on the streets, roads closed, armored personnel carriers everywhere. Glad to be far away from the excitement. I see they are also giving "Little rocket Man" haircuts or Trumps, did you try doing a new lid. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Feb 27, 2019 1:21:03 GMT -6
The Vietnamese postal service is issuing a Trump-Kim Summit stamp. They say it's crazy in Hanoi now, thousands of soldiers/police on the streets, roads closed, armored personnel carriers everywhere. Glad to be far away from the excitement. I see they are also giving "Little rocket Man" haircuts or Trumps, did you try doing a new lid. I've got a crew cut, more or less, so not much there for the barber to work with. But yes, the Trump Cut has become the fad of the week among 15-25 year olds. |
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