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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 4, 2019 10:41:02 GMT -6
Spring Training, as of yesterday:
Joke Marisnick: .231 Myles Straw: .389
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 11:01:17 GMT -6
Spring Training, as of yesterday: Joke Marisnick: .231 Myles Straw: .389 Sounds like that might be the Myles that breaks the camel's back.
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 11:14:01 GMT -6
Well...the servers would, I assume. I don't care about identity politics, and neither should you. It was mostly a tongue-in-cheek comment.
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 11:15:00 GMT -6
Let's root for Marisnick to tear up ST so he can have some trade value for SF.
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 11:18:25 GMT -6
Does anybody subscribe to ESPN Insider and can copy/paste the article about Keuchel?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 4, 2019 11:49:04 GMT -6
Let's root for Marisnick to tear up ST so he can have some trade value for SF. Unfortunately, that's not how the Astros have worked, historically. If Joke tears up ST, the Astros will send a better player down and let Joke waste a roster spot on the MLB team because, as Corch reminds us, "the players like him".
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 11:51:25 GMT -6
Let's root for Marisnick to tear up ST so he can have some trade value for SF. Unfortunately, that's not how the Astros have worked, historically. If Joke tears up ST, the Astros will send a better player down and let Joke waste a roster spot on the MLB team because, as Corch reminds us, "the players like him". Things might be different this year with both Tucker and Straw ready to go, theoretically, and Kemp with no more options.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 4, 2019 12:43:43 GMT -6
Spring Training, as of yesterday: Joke Marisnick: .231 Myles Straw: .389 Thats a great stat
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 12:55:42 GMT -6
Does anybody subscribe to ESPN Insider and can copy/paste the article about Keuchel? Saw the paragraph and a half that you did. I can play Carnac the Magnificant, and correlate (based on other like articles) that Kuechel's desire to have a LT contract is killing his marketability. No one wants to invest $20M annually for 5-6 years with his limited upside. Let's hope he comes back to reality, wants to win a second WS, and does a 1-2 deal here that won't break the bank.
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 13:00:22 GMT -6
Does anybody subscribe to ESPN Insider and can copy/paste the article about Keuchel? Saw the paragraph and a half that you did. I can play Carnac the Magnificant, and correlate (based on other like articles) that Kuechel's desire to have a LT contract is killing his marketability. No one wants to invest $20M annually for 5-6 years with his limited upside. Let's hope he comes back to reality, wants to win a second WS, and does a 1-2 deal here that won't break the bank. That can't be all it is though, most players/agents over-sell their clients early in the offseason. I'm wondering if they're STILL trying to push for something ridiculous, or if now they're not even getting much interest. I would think a team like the Phillies or Padres would still offer him a 3-year $50 million or so deal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 13:16:21 GMT -6
Saw the paragraph and a half that you did. I can play Carnac the Magnificant, and correlate (based on other like articles) that Kuechel's desire to have a LT contract is killing his marketability. No one wants to invest $20M annually for 5-6 years with his limited upside. Let's hope he comes back to reality, wants to win a second WS, and does a 1-2 deal here that won't break the bank. That can't be all it is though, most players/agents over-sell their clients early in the offseason. I'm wondering if they're STILL trying to push for something ridiculous, or if now they're not even getting much interest. I would think a team like the Phillies or Padres would still offer him a 3-year $50 million or so deal. I think there is a psychological block with Kuechel that accepting anything under the $18M QO and less than 5 yr deal will be seen as a defeat. He was quoted yesterday that his conditioning is ahead of schedule. Without facing live ST hitting, I got to call BS on that one. I just don't see any sane owner forking over $100M for this guy.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 4, 2019 13:22:13 GMT -6
He’s a gamer and gives it his all for the team. He deserves to get paid almost as much as Altuve did. Your insane. He is worth between 15 and 17m per and thats that. He would have to be moved off CF. And nothing over 3yrs guaranteed. If you sign him to 5yrs the last 2 better be team options just incase of injurys. You have to be careful with him the i jurys just started to happen this year. So going forward you would have to be careful. And no way you buy his years out peruod ride it to the end then do a deal. For $15-$17 million, say goodbye to Springer and start over with another outfielder from the farm who can rake like him.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 4, 2019 13:39:54 GMT -6
Your insane. He is worth between 15 and 17m per and thats that. He would have to be moved off CF. And nothing over 3yrs guaranteed. If you sign him to 5yrs the last 2 better be team options just incase of injurys. You have to be careful with him the i jurys just started to happen this year. So going forward you would have to be careful. And no way you buy his years out peruod ride it to the end then do a deal. For $15-$17 million, say goodbye to Springer and start over with another outfielder from the farm who can rake like him. Then you gotta let him walk. Js You need to think forward you sign him to 20+m then you set the chance of loosing guys like Correa or Bregman. So you risk that for possibly loosing one of them? Or not signing Cole or Verlander?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 4, 2019 13:41:01 GMT -6
Springer and Bregman both got dingers in today's game.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 4, 2019 13:41:17 GMT -6
The article stats the phillies uave intereast in Keuchal or Krimbal on a short term deal only they expect they could get one of them. Braves want Keuchal but not at the price he wants
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 4, 2019 13:43:13 GMT -6
For $15-$17 million, say goodbye to Springer and start over with another outfielder from the farm who can rake like him. Then you gotta let him walk. Js You need to think forward you sign him to 20+m then you set the chance of loosing guys like Correa or Bregman. So you risk that for possibly loosing one of them? Or not signing Cole or Verlander? Do you ever wonder why everyone thinks you're a mushmouthed mongoloid? Preaching for weeks about wanting losers like Dietrich and then wanting to let established star players walk is why everyone thinks you're a mushmouthed mongoloid.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 4, 2019 14:07:40 GMT -6
Stubbs with a massive bomb.
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 14:14:14 GMT -6
I think Stubbs is a more crucial position player prospect than Straw or Tucker given what we're going to need after this year (or maybe even during THIS year). If he can turn out to be a solid defensive catcher with +OBP skills, he could be very valuable.
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 14:23:45 GMT -6
If I'm Keuchel, I think I'd be at a point of looking into 1- or 2-year deals for higher AAV. Gamble on myself and see if a really good year gives me more marketability for next offseason.
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Post by marshall on Mar 4, 2019 14:24:47 GMT -6
I'll repeat what I said earlier this winter. 1/17, 2/32 or 3/45 for Keuchel. If he wants top dollar, he always signs one year deals and performs up to them.
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Post by marshall on Mar 4, 2019 14:29:37 GMT -6
I think Stubbs is a more crucial position player prospect than Straw or Tucker given what we're going to need after this year (or maybe even during THIS year). If he can turn out to be a solid defensive catcher with +OBP skills, he could be very valuable. I think Ritche is impressing. But he needs way more experience.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 4, 2019 15:09:33 GMT -6
Then you gotta let him walk. Js You need to think forward you sign him to 20+m then you set the chance of loosing guys like Correa or Bregman. So you risk that for possibly loosing one of them? Or not signing Cole or Verlander? Do you ever wonder why everyone thinks you're a mushmouthed mongoloid? Preaching for weeks about wanting losers like Dietrich and then wanting to let established star players walk is why everyone thinks you're a mushmouthed mongoloid. *****
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 4, 2019 15:15:14 GMT -6
Would you rather sign Springer or Cole? Cole everyday No reason for not signing both of them.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 4, 2019 15:17:30 GMT -6
He’s a gamer and gives it his all for the team. He deserves to get paid almost as much as Altuve did. Your insane. He is worth between 15 and 17m per and thats that. He would have to be moved off CF. And nothing over 3yrs guaranteed. If you sign him to 5yrs the last 2 better be team options just incase of injurys. You have to be careful with him the i jurys just started to happen this year. So going forward you would have to be careful. And no way you buy his years out peruod ride it to the end then do a deal. Just ti be plain you are full of crap., You have been offering lame excuses not to extend Springer for months. You continue proving your ignorance in the matter.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 4, 2019 15:18:05 GMT -6
For $15-$17 million, say goodbye to Springer and start over with another outfielder from the farm who can rake like him. Then you gotta let him walk. Js You need to think forward you sign him to 20+m then you set the chance of loosing guys like Correa or Bregman. So you risk that for possibly loosing one of them? Or not signing Cole or Verlander? I don’t think you appreciate how hard it was for the Astros to develop a bonafide star outfielder. They don’t grow on trees. It took a moderate contract just to land a complementary player like Reddick. It’s not cheap or easy to have a player who produces like Springer. Sure, Trout is a better player, but 29 other teams would want him too. Don’t toss Springer away if you don’t have to do so.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 4, 2019 15:21:03 GMT -6
Then you gotta let him walk. Js You need to think forward you sign him to 20+m then you set the chance of loosing guys like Correa or Bregman. So you risk that for possibly loosing one of them? Or not signing Cole or Verlander? Don’t toss Springer away if you don’t have to do so. But then where do you play Dietrich??? ijs
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 4, 2019 15:25:08 GMT -6
Don’t toss Springer away if you don’t have to do so. But then where do you play Dietrich??? ijs Dietrich > Trout + Springer
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 4, 2019 15:46:11 GMT -6
Stubbs with a massive bomb. I am pulling for Stubbs to make it so we can dump Stassi.
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Post by Saint on Mar 4, 2019 15:46:12 GMT -6
Springer has a good chance to be an all-star for the next few years if he bounces back closer to his 2017 numbers, and he kills it in the postseason. CFer or not, no reason he isn't worth a 5-year deal of AT LEAST $85+ million.
You can afford to keep him and keep Cole or Verlander. Although I don't know if you can keep all of them, realistically.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 4, 2019 15:47:21 GMT -6
But then where do you play Dietrich??? ijs Dietrich > Trout + Springer Last I saw, Dierich signed a minor league deal with somebody
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