|
|
Post by thomasj13 on Mar 5, 2019 8:46:35 GMT -6
Of the top 3 remaining FAs: Keuchel, Kimbrel and Gio Gonzalez, what do you think the chances are of Luhnow signing one of them? 35% it's not exactly likely (as in probability >50%), but Luhnow must recognize the shortage of reliable, quality arms and to that extent I'm sure he's ready to pounce if the price is right. Of the 3 you mention, Gio is probably most likely to get signed, followed by Keuchel, and then Kimbrel. I just don't see Kimbrel getting cheap enough for Houston. I think your 35% estimation is about right ..At this time, I am for any of these signings, if they are for short term, 2 years with a 3rd year team option. |
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Mar 5, 2019 8:51:56 GMT -6
I think Stubbs is a more crucial position player prospect than Straw or Tucker given what we're going to need after this year (or maybe even during THIS year). If he can turn out to be a solid defensive catcher with +OBP skills, he could be very valuable. I am confident that Stubbs will be a solid defensive catcher at the ML level. I’m not so sure about his bat. The plate discipline should remain, but will he maintain a high enough AVG to warrant the lack of power.... |
|
|
|
Post by thomasj13 on Mar 5, 2019 8:58:44 GMT -6
I am confident that Stubbs will be a solid defensive catcher at the ML level. I’m not so sure about his bat. The plate discipline should remain, but will he maintain a high enough AVG to warrant the lack of power.... He is not as lumbering as McCann, so he should not be a liability on the base paths. |
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Mar 5, 2019 9:03:30 GMT -6
I am confident that Stubbs will be a solid defensive catcher at the ML level. I’m not so sure about his bat. We have never had a solid offensive catcher so that won't be a first. I would say we've never had a consistently solid offensive catcher. We've had some catchers have some good single years. 2017 - McCann 106 OPS+ 2015 - Conger 109 OPS+ 2013 - Castro 130 OPS+ 2000 - Meluskey 117 OPS+ 1995 - Eusebio 109 OPS+ And of course Biggio had a couple of all-star caliber years as a Catcher before moved to 2B. (Plus Eusabio was a career .275 AVG .345 OBP hitter although he didn't have much power.) But that's not that unusual for most teams. Catchers have been long looked at as a more defensive-necessary position than offense so you see a lot of teams sacrifice offense to have a good general back there. That's why if a catcher can perform well defensively and at least be 90+ OPS+-wise offensively, they're considered pretty solid. If the rest of our roster can hit, catcher offense isn't going to make or break us. P.S. Man, what a streak of horrible hitting catchers we had back in the 2000's.... |
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Mar 5, 2019 9:06:17 GMT -6
The plate discipline should remain, but will he maintain a high enough AVG to warrant the lack of power.... He is not as lumbering as McCann, so he should not be a liability on the base paths. He has some interesting tools as a catcher. He's a not big guy, but you'd think he could drive the ball to the gaps a little better. |
|
|
|
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 5, 2019 9:21:32 GMT -6
is it possible to have a negative probability? I just finished (and passed) my Probability and Statistics course...saying the word probability around me is a bannable offense. |
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Mar 5, 2019 10:11:33 GMT -6
Of the top 3 remaining FAs: Keuchel, Kimbrel and Gio Gonzalez, what do you think the chances are of Luhnow signing one of them? |
|
|
|
Post by paastrosfan on Mar 5, 2019 11:01:43 GMT -6
We have never had a solid offensive catcher so that won't be a first. I would say we've never had a consistently solid offensive catcher. We've had some catchers have some good single years. 2017 - McCann 106 OPS+ 2015 - Conger 109 OPS+ 2013 - Castro 130 OPS+ 2000 - Meluskey 117 OPS+ 1995 - Eusebio 109 OPS+ And of course Biggio had a couple of all-star caliber years as a Catcher before moved to 2B. (Plus Eusabio was a career .275 AVG .345 OBP hitter although he didn't have much power.) But that's not that unusual for most teams. Catchers have been long looked at as a more defensive-necessary position than offense so you see a lot of teams sacrifice offense to have a good general back there. That's why if a catcher can perform well defensively and at least be 90+ OPS+-wise offensively, they're considered pretty solid. If the rest of our roster can hit, catcher offense isn't going to make or break us. P.S. Man, what a streak of horrible hitting catchers we had back in the 2000's.... Off hand how about Cliff Johnson. |
|
|
|
Post by paastrosfan on Mar 5, 2019 11:13:56 GMT -6
|
|
|
|
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 5, 2019 11:28:33 GMT -6
I hope to never again hear that softball player comment on how hard it is to face a major league fastball. |
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Mar 5, 2019 11:39:43 GMT -6
Jeter hired some ex-Yankee to join the Marlins front office. I think it was Posada
|
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Mar 5, 2019 12:15:58 GMT -6
I am pulling for Stubbs to make it so we can dump Stassi. But then who is your backup catcher next year? Pull for Stubbs so that we don't need another rental like Chirinos in 2020 and have two cheap controllable solid catchers with Stassi and Stubbs. We have control of Stassi for 4 more years. We don't know that Chirinos won't be re-signed. He came here because of Altuve so, if he has a good year, I can see him staying. I am more for quality than I am saving money. Stassi has yet to prove he belongs here. He has only been around this long because he is out of options and we didm't have better options |
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Mar 5, 2019 12:18:21 GMT -6
We have never had a solid offensive catcher so that won't be a first. I didnt say not to extend. I said not to buy out his years and offer him a 3yr deal with options on a 4th and 5th year. 15m to 18m max a year. And he has to move outta CF to prolong his career. Protecting our investments. No way 5 yr no opt outs Sorry that silly Most of your ideas are silly and not extending Soringer is one of your silliest. |
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Mar 5, 2019 12:22:08 GMT -6
Of the top 3 remaining FAs: Keuchel, Kimbrel and Gio Gonzalez, what do you think the chances are of Luhnow signing one of them? Of those three, I think Keuchel is most likely,but, I think if Luhnow wanted him he would have already signed him. |
|
|
|
Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 5, 2019 12:37:04 GMT -6
I didnt say not to extend. I said not to buy out his years and offer him a 3yr deal with options on a 4th and 5th year. 15m to 18m max a year. And he has to move outta CF to prolong his career. Protecting our investments. No way 5 yr no opt outs Sorry that silly Most of your ideas are silly and not extending Soringer is one of your silliest. I will speak slower. Extend Him But After He Is Done With The Arb Years . Dont Give Him A Five Year Deal , But A Three Year Deal , With Options On A Fourth And Fifth Year. No More Then Fifteen To Eighteen Million A Year |
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Mar 5, 2019 12:38:53 GMT -6
But then who is your backup catcher next year? Pull for Stubbs so that we don't need another rental like Chirinos in 2020 and have two cheap controllable solid catchers with Stassi and Stubbs. We have control of Stassi for 4 more years. We don't know that Chirinos won't be re-signed. He came here because of Altuve so, if he has a good year, I can see him staying. I am more for quality than I am saving money. Stassi has yet to prove he belongs here. He has only been around this long because he is out of options and we didm't have better options But with other areas to fill (like pitching) next year, don't you think it's better to use available money for that rather than 35 year old catchers when you have two young controllable catchers already? |
|
|
|
Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 5, 2019 12:45:49 GMT -6
Of the top 3 remaining FAs: Keuchel, Kimbrel and Gio Gonzalez, what do you think the chances are of Luhnow signing one of them? Of those three, I think Keuchel is most likely,but, I think if Luhnow wanted him he would have already signed him. I'll take the fact that a QO was thrown at him on his way out of the door on face value. Luhnow 'wants him'. So the real question is: how much does Luhnow want him (and for how long)? Prediction by Bortaz: Keuchel is signed by the Astros to a 3 year, $62mm contract. I'll guess 4 years, $78 million. Maybe a team buyout of the last year for $8 million. |
|
|
|
Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 5, 2019 12:50:02 GMT -6
Most of your ideas are silly and not extending Soringer is one of your silliest. I will speak slower. Extend Him But After He Is Done With The Arb Years . Dont Give Him A Five Year Deal , But A Three Year Deal , With Options On A Fourth And Fifth Year. No More Then Fifteen To Eighteen Million A Year You just HAD to challenge him to be even sillier, didn't you Corch? |
|
|
|
Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 5, 2019 13:02:53 GMT -6
I will speak slower. Extend Him But After He Is Done With The Arb Years . Dont Give Him A Five Year Deal , But A Three Year Deal , With Options On A Fourth And Fifth Year. No More Then Fifteen To Eighteen Million A Year You just HAD to challenge him to be even sillier, didn't you Corch? And your options are only team options. Not player. Protect your team from silly contracts |
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Mar 5, 2019 13:50:12 GMT -6
Severino scratched with arm discomfort. Boras is getting excited.
|
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Mar 5, 2019 13:55:02 GMT -6
We don't know that Chirinos won't be re-signed. He came here because of Altuve so, if he has a good year, I can see him staying. I am more for quality than I am saving money. Stassi has yet to prove he belongs here. He has only been around this long because he is out of options and we didm't have better options But with other areas to fill (like pitching) next year, don't you think it's better to use available money for that rather than 35 year old catchers when you have two young controllable catchers already? I’m wary of having a guy on the roster because he can frame pitches. Conger was another example of a subpar player whose value was bloated by certain stats. |
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Mar 5, 2019 14:53:57 GMT -6
Most of your ideas are silly and not extending Soringer is one of your silliest. I will speak slower. Extend Him But After He Is Done With The Arb Years . Dont Give Him A Five Year Deal , But A Three Year Deal , With Options On A Fourth And Fifth Year. No More Then Fifteen To Eighteen Million A Year Nice try, but, you are still full of crap. No way Springer agrees to only a three-year extension even with the options. |
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Mar 5, 2019 14:55:57 GMT -6
We don't know that Chirinos won't be re-signed. He came here because of Altuve so, if he has a good year, I can see him staying. I am more for quality than I am saving money. Stassi has yet to prove he belongs here. He has only been around this long because he is out of options and we didm't have better options But with other areas to fill (like pitching) next year, don't you think it's better to use available money for that rather than 35 year old catchers when you have two young controllable catchers already? Yes, i agree that money should be spent on pitching, but, we don't know how much keeping Chirinos would cost us. Until a better option arises, I would not get rid of him. |
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Mar 5, 2019 14:57:52 GMT -6
You just HAD to challenge him to be even sillier, didn't you Corch? And your options are only team options. Not player. Protect your team from silly contracts We are all glad that you have nothing to do with personnel matters. You need to go work for the Rangers. |
|
|
|
Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 5, 2019 15:02:25 GMT -6
You just HAD to challenge him to be even sillier, didn't you Corch? And your options are only team options. Not player. Protect your team from silly contracts By 'sillier' I was referring to your stunt of 'speaking slowly' and breaking each word and punctuation mark into a new line, (not the content of the post which no one will ever read because of the way you formatted the post). And I was being kind by characterizing that stunt as silly. I really don't like to use words like 'asinine'.  |
|
|
|
Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 5, 2019 15:06:22 GMT -6
You need to go work for the Rangers.  |
|
|
|
Post by abregmanfan on Mar 5, 2019 15:47:39 GMT -6
is it possible to have a negative probability? I just finished (and passed) my Probability and Statistics course...saying the word probability around me is a bannable offense. Way to go Kermit. Congrats! |
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Mar 5, 2019 15:56:28 GMT -6
is it possible to have a negative probability? I just finished (and passed) my Probability and Statistics course...saying the word probability around me is a bannable offense. l had Probablity and Statistics in college........I enjoyed it. glad you passed. |
|
marshall
Veteran
21st Century Luddite
Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood...
Posts: 4,358 
Likes: 446
|
Post by marshall on Mar 5, 2019 16:20:56 GMT -6
I just finished (and passed) my Probability and Statistics course...saying the word probability around me is a bannable offense. l had Probablity and Statistics in college........I enjoyed it. glad you passed. Oh No! Now we have something else in common. I loved Probability and Statistics as well.
I also loved producing Algorithms and Boolean logic formulas for spreadsheets. But I hated mainframes.
|
|
|
|
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 5, 2019 16:30:17 GMT -6
I just finished (and passed) my Probability and Statistics course...saying the word probability around me is a bannable offense. l had Probability and Statistics in college........I enjoyed it. glad you passed. I hated it, and thought it would be the worst class in my course of study...then I opened up biochemistry/molecular bio...good gawd almighty, I'm too old for this shit. |
|
