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Post by Saint on Nov 19, 2018 18:55:05 GMT -6
Already 29yo and has never made me more than 28 starts. Good ERA but nothing amazing. If he stays healthy he's a fine pickup for the Yankees since they really needed the pitching.
He wasn't worth Whitley.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2018 19:31:23 GMT -6
Good. Paxton's lack of deep seasons is discouraging. Keuchel can probably scratch the Yankees off his list now. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2018 19:31:48 GMT -6
Already 29yo and has never made me more than 28 starts. Good ERA but nothing amazing. If he stays healthy he's a fine pickup for the Yankees since they really needed the pitching. He wasn't worth Whitley. Agreed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 19:43:42 GMT -6
That would result in the public hanging of AZ''s GM. Those two packaged might get his jock strap here. Let's wait till 2020, and sign him outright. Explain why? Both have loads of talent and control. No faith in there value for a rental Yeah... (2) talent (limited) at MiLB level versus an elite MLB player. Simple math Voodoo, even for a rental. Would love to see Goldschmidt here. Adding him would give us the greatest infield in MLB history. Wow... Picture Goldschmidt- Altuve - Correa- Bregman. all Astros . |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2018 19:54:35 GMT -6
Good. Paxton's lack of deep seasons is discouraging. Keuchel can probably scratch the Yankees off his list now. I hope that doesn't mean we keep him. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 19, 2018 20:00:01 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2018 20:07:09 GMT -6
Has there ever been a non-move like this that we’ve all agreed on before? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2018 20:11:04 GMT -6
I don’t think you can understate how dumb it would’ve been to trade Forrest Whitley to a division rival.
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Post by Saint on Nov 19, 2018 20:19:21 GMT -6
Good. Paxton's lack of deep seasons is discouraging. Keuchel can probably scratch the Yankees off his list now. Probably. But they still have money to spend. Severino, Paxton, Keuchel, Sabathia, and Tanaka would give them a pretty darn good rotation though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 20:42:13 GMT -6
I don’t think you can understate how dumb it would’ve been to trade Forrest Whitley to a division rival. Interesting that the M's are stupid enough to think that a 11-7 pitcher with an era well north of 3 1/2 would be worth the #1 pitching prospect in baseball. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 20:43:31 GMT -6
I don’t think you can understate how dumb it would’ve been to trade Forrest Whitley to a division rival. Yep, the kind of move that could haunt us 10 years. (5 times a year) |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 19, 2018 20:58:12 GMT -6
Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Astros and Cardinals are the two teams "that have had the most meaningful discussions" with the Diamondbacks regarding a Paul Goldschmidt trade.
Rosenthal cautions that "no deal is close" and talks are "not yet advanced," but it looks like Houston and St. Louis could be the early favorites to land the six-time All-Star. Goldschmidt is slated to earn $14.5 million next season before entering free agency next winter. It's obviously going to take a big package to land him even though he's only under team control for one year. Goldy rebounded from a slow start to finish with a .290/.389/.533 and 33 home runs in 2018.
Related: Cardinals, Astros
Source: Ken Rosenthal on Twitter
Nov 19 - 9:33 PM
He is the same person who said Tyler White, J.B. , Yordan Alvaraz and a Lotto ticket would net the deal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 21:01:06 GMT -6
Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Astros and Cardinals are the two teams "that have had the most meaningful discussions" with the Diamondbacks regarding a Paul Goldschmidt trade. He is the same person who said Tyler White, J.B. , Yordan Alvaraz and a Lotto ticket would net the deal. Rosenthal is part of the MLB/ Media illuminati. Don't fool yourself one minute. His loyalties lie with coastal teams. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 19, 2018 21:02:25 GMT -6
He pushed it twice in two different interviews today on MLB network and when Heyman said it it kinda took flight.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2018 21:28:38 GMT -6
I don’t think you can understate how dumb it would’ve been to trade Forrest Whitley to a division rival. It would have been dumb to trade Whitley.........period |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2018 21:31:03 GMT -6
I don’t think you can understate how dumb it would’ve been to trade Forrest Whitley to a division rival. Yep, the kind of move that could haunt us 10 years. (5 times a year) I don't think Luhnow has any intentions of trading Whitley or Tucker. He has other prospects who are valuable and more expendable. You don't trade young pitchers with Whitley's ability. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 19, 2018 21:41:35 GMT -6
Rosenthal's latest is the Indians want young MLB players cheap and under control.
Could Corrasco be had for a Tony Kemp headliner? Or Tyler?
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2018 22:50:22 GMT -6
Rosenthal's latest is the Indians want young MLB players cheap and under control. Could Corrasco be had for a Tony Kemp headliner? Or Tyler? LOL |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2018 22:52:09 GMT -6
I find it hard to get excited about Goldschmidt since he would be a rental.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 19, 2018 23:18:30 GMT -6
I find it hard to get excited about Goldschmidt since he would be a rental. If they really want Goldschmidt, then sign him next off season....they will need to keep the top, young talent...bc if and when they make the majors, their low salaries will help offset the salaries of Altuve and Goldschmidt, plus if the Astos can keep Verlander and Cole. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2018 23:26:27 GMT -6
I find it hard to get excited about Goldschmidt since he would be a rental. Wait until Goldschmidt is a FA and sign him. Don't trade for him, Thomas is right. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 20, 2018 7:34:14 GMT -6
I find it hard to get excited about Goldschmidt since he would be a rental. Wait until Goldschmidt is a FA and sign him. Don't trade for him, Thomas is right. He becomes a free agent next year. Next year we may not have Verlander and Cole. We have Verlander and Cole this year. The only way we can be sure to have Verlander, Cole, and Goldschmidt is to trade for Goldschmidt. Trade for Goldschmidt. Do it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 8:00:33 GMT -6
I don’t think you can understate how dumb it would’ve been to trade Forrest Whitley to a division rival. Yep, the kind of move that could haunt us 10 years. (5 times a year) We already made that mistake in the late 90s trading for the Big Unit. Obviously we were not in the same division but we lost some pretty good prospects in that trade who ended up having good MLB careers. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 8:14:57 GMT -6
It's being reported that the Indians are drawing interest from clubs for C - Yan Gomes.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 20, 2018 8:19:09 GMT -6
Rosenthal's latest is the Indians want young MLB players cheap and under control. Could Corrasco be had for a Tony Kemp headliner? Or Tyler? LOL Not saying him by himself nearly suggesting he could be apart of it. He serves a big need for the Indians young cheap controllable OF. Sure I get it will cost more. I'm just saying what the baseball writers are suggesting. Indians want young controllable MLB players not so much prospects |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 8:32:16 GMT -6
Not saying him by himself nearly suggesting he could be apart of it. He serves a big need for the Indians young cheap controllable OF. Sure I get it will cost more. I'm just saying what the baseball writers are suggesting. Indians want young controllable MLB players not so much prospects I don't think we would have to give up our top two prospects for Carrasco. Maybe Kemp and Bukauskas would get it done though. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 20, 2018 8:34:07 GMT -6
I'm very surprised Cleveland is ready to tear it down.
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Post by talshill on Nov 20, 2018 8:41:07 GMT -6
Goldschmidt grew up a 'Stros fan and I remember reading a vignette somewhere that he would like to play for Houston. He'd like it even more now that the Astros are contenders. I want him for this upcoming season if the prospect cost isn't prohibitive and, realistically, Luhnow should be able to do it without giving up major pieces since Goldschmidt is in the last year of his contract. Knowing the 'Stros need a SP I'm sure AZ will try to bundle ZG along with him. I'm not opposed to landing both depending on the amount of $ headed Houston's way and the extra pieces required for ZG. I'm very glad I'm not a GM.
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Post by olpapa on Nov 20, 2018 9:00:09 GMT -6
Well today is the deadline for minor leaguers who are eligible for the Rule 5 draft to be placed on the 40-man roster or be exposed to the Rule 5 in December. The Astros 40-man roster is at 35 right now. Obviously Armenteros and Stubbs will be added. Curious to see if Riley Ferrell is added since he struggled at AAA this past season.
On a related note, I went to Roster Resource this morning to go back over our list of minor leaguers and see when each is eligible for the Rule 5. I noticed Randy Cesar’s name was missing. He is the kid who set the Texas League record this past season for most consecutive games with a hit (42). Did some digging and found that he elected free agency on November 2 and later signed with Minnesota.
MLB.com lists Jonathon Arauz as being eligible for the Rule 5 this year. Roster Resource indicates that he will be eligible in 2019. Either way I don’t think any team would draft him.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 20, 2018 9:01:35 GMT -6
Goldschmidt grew up a 'Stros fan and I remember reading a vignette somewhere that he would like to play for Houston. He'd like it even more now that the Astros are contenders. I want him for this upcoming season if the prospect cost isn't prohibitive and, realistically, Luhnow should be able to do it without giving up major pieces since Goldschmidt is in the last year of his contract. Knowing the 'Stros need a SP I'm sure AZ will try to bundle ZG along with him. I'm not opposed to landing both depending on the amount of $ headed Houston's way and the extra pieces required for ZG. I'm very glad I'm not a GM. Unless the dbacks eat a bunch of ZG 's contract, I would not take him. |
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