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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:02:23 GMT -6
I think I’m not wanting to give up Tucker for Realmuto. McCann, Maldonado, and Stassi weren’t the reasons why the Astros failed to repeat last season. Literally, each hitter in the lineup besides Bregman was either injured or played worse. Morton might not return, Keuchel is probably gone, McCullers is done for a year, McHugh is in his final team-controlled year along with Cole, Verlander is in his last year (unless he’s in the top five for AL CYA voting), etc. That’s a lot of mouths to feed. I know Luhnow doesn’t like signing desirable free agents often, but it’s time to get aggressive like he was after the 2016 season.
Realmuto only has two years of team control left. I don’t think that’s worth your top hitting prospect or especially not your top minor league pitcher. I’d rather he go for Pérez or Ramos. Get Pollock or Brantley, especially if Tucker has to go.
Realmuto is a two-year luxury, who might be moved to a different position anyway just to save his legs.
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Post by m240 on Nov 28, 2018 10:05:21 GMT -6
Jon Morosi and Brian McTaggert are saying the Astros are in dialogue with Nathan Evoildi. Nothing is imminent or even moving in either direction. But they are talking He would be interesting but he would also be a big gamble. If we sign him then we will have to add a bunch of offense this winter so that we can outscore everyone when Verlander and Cole are not on the mound. Houston really seems to be kicking the tires on everyone. It sure would be great to know what values they actually place on the various players but it definitely keeps things interesting. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2018 10:08:56 GMT -6
I think I’m not wanting to give up Tucker for Realmuto. McCann, Maldonado, and Stassi weren’t the reasons why the Astros failed to repeat last season. Literally, each hitter in the lineup besides Bregman was either injured or played worse. Morton might not return, Keuchel is probably gone, McCullers is done for a year, McHugh is in his final team-controlled year along with Cole, Verlander is in his last year (unless he’s in the top five for AL CYA voting), etc. That’s a lot of mouths to feed. I know Luhnow doesn’t like signing desirable free agents often, but it’s time to get aggressive like he was after the 2016 season. Realmuto only has two years of team control left. I don’t think that’s worth your top hitting prospect or especially not your top minor league pitcher. I’d rather he go for Pérez or Ramos. Get Pollock or Brantley, especially if Tucker has to go. Realmuto is a two-year luxury, who might be moved to a different position anyway just to save his legs. Exactly. Trade for a multi-year SP. If Salvador Perez isn't available for a reasonable amount, sign a Catcher. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:11:43 GMT -6
I like Canó, but that contract is an eyesore. I know he’d be the 1B, but I like that smooth defense over Altuve’s at second base. Maybe Altuve can be the LF, I don’t know. Either way, getting Canó is impractical considering the other needs of the team. With Reddick’s warning track tendencies, Haniger would be an upgrade offensively. I just don’t care much for his defense.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 28, 2018 10:15:45 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:16:38 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:17:07 GMT -6
I think I’m not wanting to give up Tucker for Realmuto. McCann, Maldonado, and Stassi weren’t the reasons why the Astros failed to repeat last season. Literally, each hitter in the lineup besides Bregman was either injured or played worse. Morton might not return, Keuchel is probably gone, McCullers is done for a year, McHugh is in his final team-controlled year along with Cole, Verlander is in his last year (unless he’s in the top five for AL CYA voting), etc. That’s a lot of mouths to feed. I know Luhnow doesn’t like signing desirable free agents often, but it’s time to get aggressive like he was after the 2016 season. Realmuto only has two years of team control left. I don’t think that’s worth your top hitting prospect or especially not your top minor league pitcher. I’d rather he go for Pérez or Ramos. Get Pollock or Brantley, especially if Tucker has to go. Realmuto is a two-year luxury, who might be moved to a different position anyway just to save his legs. Exactly. Trade for a multi-year SP. If Salvador Perez isn't available for a reasonable amount, sign a Catcher. You think Luhnow would spend that cheddar on a FA catcher? Let’s hope because it seems like they’re abandoning ship on Tucker prematurely. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:18:45 GMT -6
What do you all think of Eovaldi? I’m not sure if his success last year is repeatable, but if he fails as a starter, imagine how it’ll play in the bullpen.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:20:02 GMT -6
Imagine if Morton and Eovaldi join the rotation. That’s deadly. What a shame about LMJ’s elbow.
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2018 10:21:12 GMT -6
Exactly. Trade for a multi-year SP. If Salvador Perez isn't available for a reasonable amount, sign a Catcher. You think Luhnow would spend that cheddar on a FA catcher? Let’s hope because it seems like they’re abandoning ship on Tucker prematurely. Honestly, I'd rather see bigger money invested in a LFer, DH, and extensions for Springer and Cole. Trade Tucker for a SP (I like the idea of Syndergaard). Go sign a cheaper C like Lucroy and see how Stassi and Stubbs progress. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:22:07 GMT -6
You think Luhnow would spend that cheddar on a FA catcher? Let’s hope because it seems like they’re abandoning ship on Tucker prematurely. Honestly, I'd rather see bigger money invested in a LFer, DH, and extensions for Springer and Cole. Trade Tucker for a SP (I like the idea of Syndergaard). Go sign a cheaper C like Lucroy and see how Stassi and Stubbs progress. I agree wholeheartedly with most of what you said. The only qualm I have is Mets pitchers aren’t exactly known for durability. Wheeler, Matz, Harvey, and Syndergaard have all had some DL time. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2018 10:25:14 GMT -6
Honestly, I'd rather see bigger money invested in a LFer, DH, and extensions for Springer and Cole. Trade Tucker for a SP (I like the idea of Syndergaard). Go sign a cheaper C like Lucroy and see how Stassi and Stubbs progress. I agree wholeheartedly with most of what you said. The only qualm I have is Mets pitchers aren’t exactly known for durability. Wheeler, Matz, Harvey, and Syndergaard have all had some DL time. Even if Syndergaard only averages 150 innings a year, those are high caliber good innings at a very reasonable price for multiple years. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 28, 2018 10:25:59 GMT -6
If we want Verlander and Cole to stay, Perez at catcher is the way to go. At least the team site said this would be a popular move with the pitching staff
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:32:04 GMT -6
If we want Verlander and Cole to stay, Perez at catcher is the way to go. At least the team site said this would be a popular move with the pitching staff I believe that. It was odd how Stassi was always on the roster yet seldomly played. I just think the pitchers had issues with the way he called the game. Too bad Maldonado’s glove was just as bad. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2018 10:32:22 GMT -6
If we want Verlander and Cole to stay, Perez at catcher is the way to go. At least the team site said this would be a popular move with the pitching staff Perez would be a perfect for what we need from C. Better than Realmuto, imo. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 28, 2018 10:39:53 GMT -6
If we want Verlander and Cole to stay, Perez at catcher is the way to go. At least the team site said this would be a popular move with the pitching staff It seems like Houston and KC should be able to match up on a trade. Royals are in rebuild mode and need good prospects. Astros need a catcher and have plenty good prospects to deal. Will KC be willing to deal Perez or do they want to keep him and build around him? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:47:39 GMT -6
If we want Verlander and Cole to stay, Perez at catcher is the way to go. At least the team site said this would be a popular move with the pitching staff It seems like Houston and KC should be able to match up on a trade. Royals are in rebuild mode and need good prospects. Astros need a catcher and have plenty good prospects to deal. Will KC be willing to deal Perez or do they want to keep him and build around him? If they got Merrifield and Pérez, look out world. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 10:49:39 GMT -6
Jon Morosi and Brian McTaggert are saying the Astros are in dialogue with Nathan Evoildi. Nothing is imminent or even moving in either direction. But they are talking Eovaldi is the guy I have wanted all along.......we don't have to trade Tucker to get him. An interesting thought would be to sign Eovaldi and still trade for a guy like Syndergaard. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 10:50:11 GMT -6
It seems like Houston and KC should be able to match up on a trade. Royals are in rebuild mode and need good prospects. Astros need a catcher and have plenty good prospects to deal. Will KC be willing to deal Perez or do they want to keep him and build around him? If they got Merrifield and Pérez, look out world. This is my ideal trade scenario. Then go out and sign Morton and Eovaldi. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:50:22 GMT -6
Jon Morosi and Brian McTaggert are saying the Astros are in dialogue with Nathan Evoildi. Nothing is imminent or even moving in either direction. But they are talking Eovaldi is the guy I have wanted all along.......we don't have to trade Tucker to get him. An interesting thought would be to sign Eovaldi and still trade for a guy like Syndergaard. Then goodbye, Tucker. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 10:51:48 GMT -6
If Jake’s dad were the GM of the Mets, I still don’t think they do that deal. Corch isn't the GM of the Mets, son. I would not want the job. But, if I had it, I can always use a top CF. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:51:53 GMT -6
So, I guess we’re all in agreement that a free agent should be signed?
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 10:56:14 GMT -6
Eovaldi is the guy I have wanted all along.......we don't have to trade Tucker to get him. An interesting thought would be to sign Eovaldi and still trade for a guy like Syndergaard. Then goodbye, Tucker. Eovaldi is a free agent........Tucker would have nothing to do with signing him. We would probably have to part with Tucker to get Syndergaard. Frankly, if we sign Eovaldi, I don't think Luhnow trades for Syndergaard. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 10:56:47 GMT -6
Corch isn't the GM of the Mets, son. I would not want the job. But, if I had it, I can always use a top CF. probably more than one. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:57:48 GMT -6
Eovaldi is a free agent........Tucker would have nothing to do with signing him. We would probably have to part with Tucker to get Syndergaard. Frankly, if we sign Eovaldi, I don't think Luhnow trades for Syndergaard. Imagine Eovaldi, Syndergaard, and Morton with Verlander and Cole. My goodness. It’ll never happen but wow. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 10:59:14 GMT -6
They need to add a hitter, though. It’s not fun seeing pitchers go out there and dominate only to get ND’s or L’s.
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Post by Saint on Nov 28, 2018 11:03:06 GMT -6
They need to add a hitter, though. It’s not fun seeing pitchers go out there and dominate only to get ND’s or L’s. Dream scenario is trading for Perez and signing Cruz and McCutchen. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 11:03:45 GMT -6
No one really knows what will happen with Verlander and Cole but there is a scenario that allows the Astros to really go after another title while they are still on the payroll. They do not have to have Realmuto to get there, they do however have to have a #3 starter that is better than Keuchel and the only guy that makes sense to me is Snydergaard. The only way to get him is to trade Tucker for him. I am a big fan of Tucker, I think he will be just as good as Springer and trading him will hurt. But if we trade him and get Snydergaard in return and then go on to win it all then it will be thought of as a great trade. We are in a unique place right now. If we do not go all out to win it again then there is absolutely no chance on getting Verlander or Cole back for 2020. If we do then there is a chance for both. Trading Tucker will hurt but all things considered it will be worth it in the long haul. Continuing to win.....especially getting back to the WS.....could really influence Verlander and Cole to re-sign. That is why it is necessary for Luhnow to do what is necessary to win in 2019. We needed to add a bat at the 2018 deadline and did nothing.......it cost us. If Luhnow could extend both Verlander and Cole right now that would solidfy the Astros chances for the next 3-4 years....have them anchor the rotation, and mentor Whitley, James and those to follow. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 11:09:16 GMT -6
You think Luhnow would spend that cheddar on a FA catcher? Let’s hope because it seems like they’re abandoning ship on Tucker prematurely. Honestly, I'd rather see bigger money invested in a LFer, DH, and extensions for Springer and Cole. Trade Tucker for a SP (I like the idea of Syndergaard). Go sign a cheaper C like Lucroy and see how Stassi and Stubbs progress. I would keep Tucker, if lives up to his ability, an All-Star, he is cheap and controllable for years... Astros need to re-sign Cole and Verlander, and either sign or trade for Morton 2.0 (next diamond in the rough). |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 11:09:32 GMT -6
For all we know, Whitley could get called up in 2019 so Eovaldi or Syndergaard would definitely be enough for the rotation. Get one of them and focus on adding a hitter.
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