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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 15:03:40 GMT -6
Based on the fact that he only made around $1.3 million in 2018 and has not shown he can stay healthy and consistent, I would not offer him more than 3 years at $6-7 million per year. The 5 year,.$55 million that nathan suggested is absurd. I'd give him a shot for your suggested deal. Based on his track record, I don't think he should expect more than that. I am surprised that I am not hearing Keuchel's name being mentioned as drawing interest. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 15:48:34 GMT -6
I'm fine with them bypassing Stassi for Stubbs as a backup if they got Perez. Stassi would have some trade value anyways. If we get Perez, he could mentor Stubbs. I can see Stassi being used in a trade. Perez will cost prospects, Astros should just sign Ramos....Astros are not going to have major payroll considerations for another 2 years, so spend that money now, lock up Ramos for 2 years, with a 3rd year option |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 15:50:31 GMT -6
I'd give him a shot for your suggested deal. Based on his track record, I don't think he should expect more than that. I am surprised that I am not hearing Keuchel's name being mentioned as drawing interest. Corbin is the big pitching prize this off season...so Keuchel will probably sign after he does ..I think Phillies followed by the Yankees should be favorites to sign Corbin, loser should get Dallas. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 28, 2018 15:57:28 GMT -6
$55 million seems insane for what he has shown. The 5 years is worse than the $55m. That's a LONG time to be stuck with him when he inevitibly falls back to his mean |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 28, 2018 15:57:40 GMT -6
I'd give him a shot for your suggested deal. Based on his track record, I don't think he should expect more than that. I am surprised that I am not hearing Keuchel's name being mentioned as drawing interest. Cuz he is not a Flam thrower. And he is bad for a huge contract |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 16:07:21 GMT -6
$55 million seems insane for what he has shown. The 5 years is worse than the $55m. That's a LONG time to be stuck with him when he inevitibly falls back to his mean Hear hear. I don’t care about the money but how long you’re stuck with a player. It seemed like Scott Feldman and Tony Sipp were here for a combined 26 seasons. |
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Post by talshill on Nov 28, 2018 16:08:40 GMT -6
Eovaldi has a 7-8 year track record of being a 4+ ERA pitcher. That trumps one good post-season. We could probably use him, but not at the prices I've seen bandied about here. Maybe Strom can wave his magic wand and get more out of him...for the right price.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 28, 2018 16:12:18 GMT -6
It’s kind of sucks that talks of Syndergaard have devolved into Eovaldi.
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Post by m240 on Nov 28, 2018 16:27:57 GMT -6
Based on his track record, I don't think he should expect more than that. I am surprised that I am not hearing Keuchel's name being mentioned as drawing interest. Corbin is the big pitching prize this off season...so Keuchel will probably sign after he does ..I think Phillies followed by the Yankees should be favorites to sign Corbin, loser should get Dallas. If the Yankees sign Corbin then the price for Keuchel will drop as that will take the one big money team that he would sign with at the drop of a hat off the table that we had to worry about. Philadelphia and Washington will be the only other winning teams that we have to worry about as Keuchel will not want to go to a rebuilding team in my opinion. Having said that though he might consider San Diego given their level of minor league talent and the advanced levels that talent has developed to. So if I were to rank my pitching preferences right now they would be; Syndergaard Grienke Keuchel Happ Cahill and then Eovaldi |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 17:33:55 GMT -6
The 5 years is worse than the $55m. That's a LONG time to be stuck with him when he inevitibly falls back to his mean Hear hear. I don’t care about the money but how long you’re stuck with a player. It seemed like Scott Feldman and Tony Sipp were here for a combined 26 seasons. I would not give any pitcher a five year contract unless it was extreme circumstances and I don't see one out there that I would give over a three year deal |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 17:35:06 GMT -6
It’s kind of sucks that talks of Syndergaard have devolved into Eovaldi. We have to trade quality for Syndergaard......we don't have to trade for Eovaldi. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 17:36:35 GMT -6
Corbin is the big pitching prize this off season...so Keuchel will probably sign after he does ..I think Phillies followed by the Yankees should be favorites to sign Corbin, loser should get Dallas. If the Yankees sign Corbin then the price for Keuchel will drop as that will take the one big money team that he would sign with at the drop of a hat off the table that we had to worry about. Philadelphia and Washington will be the only other winning teams that we have to worry about as Keuchel will not want to go to a rebuilding team in my opinion. Having said that though he might consider San Diego given their level of minor league talent and the advanced levels that talent has developed to. So if I were to rank my pitching preferences right now they would be; Syndergaard Grienke Keuchel Happ Cahill and then Eovaldi The good thing is that we haven't heard they might want to re-sign Keuchel. The bad news is we haven't signed Morton yet. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 28, 2018 17:45:15 GMT -6
If the Yankees sign Corbin then the price for Keuchel will drop as that will take the one big money team that he would sign with at the drop of a hat off the table that we had to worry about. Philadelphia and Washington will be the only other winning teams that we have to worry about as Keuchel will not want to go to a rebuilding team in my opinion. Having said that though he might consider San Diego given their level of minor league talent and the advanced levels that talent has developed to. So if I were to rank my pitching preferences right now they would be; Syndergaard Grienke Keuchel Happ Cahill and then Eovaldi The good thing is that we haven't heard they might want to re-sign Keuchel. The bad news is we haven't signed Morton yet. Yea for sure. I'm so glad we haven't heard anything about Keuchal. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 18:28:29 GMT -6
It’s kind of sucks that talks of Syndergaard have devolved into Eovaldi. I suspect any deal for Syndergaard would have the Mets forcing us to part with Whitley. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 19:12:41 GMT -6
It’s kind of sucks that talks of Syndergaard have devolved into Eovaldi. I suspect any deal for Syndergaard would have the Mets forcing us to part with Whitley. No thank you |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 19:55:39 GMT -6
It’s kind of sucks that talks of Syndergaard have devolved into Eovaldi. I suspect any deal for Syndergaard would have the Mets forcing us to part with Whitley. I am sure we won't part with Whitley in any deal. |
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Post by marshall on Nov 28, 2018 20:28:49 GMT -6
Imma ask this question Would you as an Astro fan except this Robinson Cano and they pay ten million per year till his contracts over and Haniger For Josh Reddick, Yuli Gurriel and Joe Smith with 2 low level Prospects? Cano becomes the DH/1B Haniger takes over for Reddick I would take exception to this. I certainly wouldn't accept this. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 20:34:59 GMT -6
Are Martes and McCullers bullpen bound in 2020?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 28, 2018 20:58:03 GMT -6
Are Martes and McCullers bullpen bound in 2020? Good question Honestly I think Martes will be traded |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 21:15:04 GMT -6
Are Martes and McCullers bullpen bound in 2020? Good question Honestly I think Martes will be traded Not much value if out for the season recovering from TJ surgery |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 28, 2018 21:27:44 GMT -6
He needs his equilibrium and eyes checked
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 21:34:03 GMT -6
Imma ask this question Would you as an Astro fan except this Robinson Cano and they pay ten million per year till his contracts over and Haniger For Josh Reddick, Yuli Gurriel and Joe Smith with 2 low level Prospects? Cano becomes the DH/1B Haniger takes over for Reddick I would take exception to this. I certainly wouldn't accept this. No way in hell do I trade those guys for Cano.........I can't stand Cano. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 28, 2018 22:13:01 GMT -6
Good question Honestly I think Martes will be traded Not much value if out for the season recovering from TJ surgery Right now all Martes is worth is a bag of oranges |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 28, 2018 22:41:25 GMT -6
For what it's worth Jason Stark and Adm Wexler think Paul Goldschmidt will get traded to the Astros.
According to there sources there is and has been talks. But that's all they know as of now
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 22:49:19 GMT -6
For what it's worth Jason Stark and Adm Wexler think Paul Goldschmidt will get traded to the Astros. According to there sources there is and has been talks. But that's all they know as of now If that happens, I have to think we know we can re-sign him. I don't think Luhnow gives up much to rent him for a season. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 22:50:37 GMT -6
For what it's worth Jason Stark and Adm Wexler think Paul Goldschmidt will get traded to the Astros. According to there sources there is and has been talks. But that's all they know as of now Why just not wait a year and sign him when he is a FA? I don't think he can be had for one your heavily favored Astros offers. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 22:51:24 GMT -6
For what it's worth Jason Stark and Adm Wexler think Paul Goldschmidt will get traded to the Astros. According to there sources there is and has been talks. But that's all they know as of now If that happens, I have to think we know we can re-sign him. I don't think Luhnow gives up much to rent him for a season. He will come at a steep price. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 28, 2018 22:55:58 GMT -6
If that happens, I have to think we know we can re-sign him. I don't think Luhnow gives up much to rent him for a season. He will come at a steep price. It would not be wise to give up much just to rent him. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 28, 2018 23:01:24 GMT -6
He will come at a steep price. It would not be wise to give up much just to rent him. Need to extend Cole and Verlander before Astros make any big signings this off season...at least Cole. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 29, 2018 0:26:58 GMT -6
It would not be wise to give up much just to rent him. Need to extend Cole and Verlander before Astros make any big signings this off season...at least Cole. That seems like too much homework to do before some team snatches up these free agents. |
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