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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 29, 2018 12:40:45 GMT -6
The better SP options are going to be via trade. So if you go that route, be prepared to sign a Catcher or trade for a much lesser product than Realmuto (like Cervelli). Then sign Cruz and hope you didn't have to give up Tucker so he can play LF... I trust Luhnow can find the Astros a #3 caliber pitcher without signing to too much money or trading away top prospects....we need a talented, just need a COS pitcher....that with right coaching can really surprise everyone. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 29, 2018 13:00:26 GMT -6
We came up short last year and we are losing a lot of talent to free agency. To replace those guys we can bring up Tucker and hope his hard contact data was real and if it is then we are better there, we traded for Diaz and got Marwin type performance for less money, but right now there is no one to replace Keuchel, Morton, McCullers, and our catchers. James may give us McCullers numbers but who makes us better than Keuchel and Morton. The pure and simple fact is that none of the free agents out there makes us better. We have to trade for at least one big arm if not two, and we have to get a top tier catcher. To do less means we will need to come to terms with us settling for a 90-95 win season and a dog fight for the West title. That is not the way I would like to see us spend the last year of Verlander and Cole's time with the Astros.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 29, 2018 13:09:39 GMT -6
Mlb network had Dallas at 4yrs 80
Evoildi 4yrs 50 to 60
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 29, 2018 13:24:45 GMT -6
If we get Syndergaard, then lay off Goldschmidt. Goldschmidt + Syndergaard = snoopy dance Yes, but at what cost? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 29, 2018 13:31:18 GMT -6
OTOH... (1) Playing near home has advantages for incentives to stay, add fact our state has no income tax. (2) Even signed one year gives us a negotiating advantage for an extension. Even a long one. Having the greatest infield in MLB history gives me reason for excitement. I mean that really is a sick infield. I thought y'all had determined that Altuve sucked at 2B and wanted to move him to LF. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 29, 2018 13:34:29 GMT -6
I mean that really is a sick infield. I thought y'all had determined that Altuve sucked at 2B and wanted to move him to LF. Goldschmidt should stay at first base even though they’ve done crazy things like play Yuli at 2B. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 29, 2018 13:34:58 GMT -6
I just read that NYM and Seattle were nearing a deal. Wonder if they're trading Cano for Thor.
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Post by Saint on Nov 29, 2018 13:38:41 GMT -6
I thought y'all had determined that Altuve sucked at 2B and wanted to move him to LF. Goldschmidt should stay at first base even though they’ve done crazy things like play Yuli at 2B. Altuve doesn't have the arm for LF. He's a better than average 2B. Don't move him. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 29, 2018 13:39:33 GMT -6
I just read that NYM and Seattle were nearing a deal. Wonder if they're trading Cano for Thor. Why would they trade their ace, 2B, and closer to get a different ace? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 29, 2018 13:44:23 GMT -6
The problem with getting Goldschmidt is you have a premium player for just a year. Can you imagine the letdown if after he leaves you have some guy like Grandal for several more seasons? You know speaking of Grandal why are we not seeing anything about us talking to this guy. I know he comes with a draft pick penalty but that would be a high 60s pick and we will be getting a high 70s pick for Keuchel. Hell do that deal and keep your prospects instead of going for Realmuto. Grandal is suspect defensively and piles up strikeouts. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 29, 2018 13:47:08 GMT -6
Mets really motivated to move Thor. Front runners are Padres, Astros and Braves If we get Syndergaard, then lay off Goldschmidt. If we get Goldschmidt, I would think that moves Yuli to DH and we don't need Nelson Cruz. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 29, 2018 13:48:03 GMT -6
I just read that NYM and Seattle were nearing a deal. Wonder if they're trading Cano for Thor. Three of there top 5 prospects are going to the Mariners Mets Cano Diaz. But there is alot of talks that since the market is flooded with Catchers that Realmutos price has to drop for him to be traded. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 29, 2018 13:48:26 GMT -6
Mlb network had Dallas at 4yrs 80 Evoildi 4yrs 50 to 60 Only a desperate idiot would offer those deals to Keuchel and Eovaldi. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 29, 2018 13:49:08 GMT -6
If we get Syndergaard, then lay off Goldschmidt. If we get Goldschmidt, I would think that moves Yuli to DH and we don't need Nelson Cruz. I think Cruz will be hear regardless. I just have a feeling they have some sort of contract that they want to get to and Cruz wants a championship. I also believe this is all or bust year |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 29, 2018 13:49:58 GMT -6
Mlb network had Dallas at 4yrs 80 Evoildi 4yrs 50 to 60 Only a desperate idiot would offer those deals to Keuchel and Eovaldi. Well I wouldnt count out the Astros on 5 yr 55 million front loaded contract |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 29, 2018 13:50:04 GMT -6
Goldschmidt should stay at first base even though they’ve done crazy things like play Yuli at 2B. Altuve doesn't have the arm for LF. He's a better than average 2B. Don't move him. Altuve will stay at second base...........we can take that to the bank. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 29, 2018 13:51:51 GMT -6
Only a desperate idiot would offer those deals to Keuchel and Eovaldi. Well I wouldnt count out the Astros on 5 yr 55 million front loaded contract Don't hold your breath until either gets a 5 year deal from us. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 29, 2018 14:15:25 GMT -6
I just read that NYM and Seattle were nearing a deal. Wonder if they're trading Cano for Thor. Why would they trade their ace, 2B, and closer to get a different ace? Dumping salary, I suppose. Just read that Thor is a former client of the new Mets GM. Seems like Syndergaard went on the market as soon as the new GM took the reins. Must be some bad blood there. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 29, 2018 14:18:24 GMT -6
If we get Syndergaard, then lay off Goldschmidt. If we get Goldschmidt, I would think that moves Yuli to DH and we don't need Nelson Cruz. I agree. |
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Post by marshall on Nov 29, 2018 14:27:32 GMT -6
I mean that really is a sick infield. I thought y'all had determined that Altuve sucked at 2B and wanted to move him to LF. That's so 5 minutes ago. Fickle is fast. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 29, 2018 14:34:51 GMT -6
You know speaking of Grandal why are we not seeing anything about us talking to this guy. I know he comes with a draft pick penalty but that would be a high 60s pick and we will be getting a high 70s pick for Keuchel. Hell do that deal and keep your prospects instead of going for Realmuto. Grandal is suspect defensively and piles up strikeouts. He does have trouble with good pitches in the zone but his offensive #s over the last 4 years are better than Realmuto. Grandal is an elite pitch framer and average everywhere else. Suspect according to who. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 29, 2018 14:37:33 GMT -6
Goldschmidt + Syndergaard = snoopy dance Yes, but at what cost? More than a little but less than a lot |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 29, 2018 14:51:48 GMT -6
If we get Syndergaard, then lay off Goldschmidt. If we get Goldschmidt, I would think that moves Yuli to DH and we don't need Nelson Cruz. Astros are not getting Goldschmidt....but if somehow they did, I would still be for signing Cruz. Yuli, along with Diaz, would be the super utility players.. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 29, 2018 14:52:18 GMT -6
More than a little but less than a lot I think at least a lot |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 29, 2018 14:55:35 GMT -6
If we get Goldschmidt, I would think that moves Yuli to DH and we don't need Nelson Cruz. Astros are not getting Goldschmidt....but if somehow they did, I would still be for signing Cruz. Yuli, along with Diaz, would be the super utility players.. I’d rather have Goldschmidt and a FA OF than Cruz and move Yuli to DH. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 29, 2018 15:04:14 GMT -6
Astros are not getting Goldschmidt....but if somehow they did, I would still be for signing Cruz. Yuli, along with Diaz, would be the super utility players.. I’d rather have Goldschmidt and a FA OF than Cruz and move Yuli to DH. Not me, rather trust Tucker....and rotate in Straw into the different OF positions |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 29, 2018 15:19:18 GMT -6
New rumor Yankees trying to package Gary Sanchez and the rest of there top prospects for J.T. Realmuto.
If that goes down two analyst have stated Sanchez will be traded again for what ever they can get
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Post by Saint on Nov 29, 2018 15:29:11 GMT -6
You know speaking of Grandal why are we not seeing anything about us talking to this guy. I know he comes with a draft pick penalty but that would be a high 60s pick and we will be getting a high 70s pick for Keuchel. Hell do that deal and keep your prospects instead of going for Realmuto. Grandal is suspect defensively and piles up strikeouts. Actually he was the highest rated defensive catcher in baseball this year overall. He just had a really bad postseason. And I don't mind strikeouts if they get on base as well as he does and hits 20+ HR. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 29, 2018 15:40:23 GMT -6
I thought Gary Sanchez was supposed to be the next beloved Yankee hero.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 29, 2018 15:42:24 GMT -6
Like most sites that think they are Astros experts and are "in the know", they have no clue as to what is going on. Like "Houston Astros True Fans", this is another site that posts things to stir the pot . I knew Stassi was out of options but I wasn't aware that Kemp also had to clear waivers to be sent down. I repeat......Jake is of more value to this team than Kemp. Kemp is a below average outfielder with little power. Trade him. Yes, I am very pro-Jake because I've seen how many runs he saves with his range in the outfield and his arm which is very accurate and has helped him throw out baserunners trying to advance. Kemp doesn't have a good arm. At this point, I keep Jake and Straw and trade Kemp. And you are the idiot who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. We are still waiting for just ONE of your ridiculous trade proposals to pan out.  |
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