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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 29, 2018 22:54:12 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 29, 2018 23:06:41 GMT -6
Ok so after some searching and reading talking to Jeffery Todd and a couple guys from House of Houston. J.T. Realmuto for Kyle Tucker and Christian Javier should get the deal done. The amount of Catchers on the Market as of now is insane. Alot of Gms are thinking his price might lower alittle bit but not much. ----------------------------------------- Paul Goldschmidt seems to be the hot name that atleast 5 top writer's think could be an Astro. Tyler White, Cionel Perez, Framber Valdez and Rogelio Armentaros. It's just enough of a trade value to make sure the Diamondbacks get a replacement 1B. And three pitchers all three would be ready to go come Spring training to fight for Corbins spot and or Grienkes if he is traded. ----------------------------------------- House of Houston believes Nelson Cruz might have atleast a two year contract on the Table. But as some may have seen they want Cruz to learn 1B aswell so he is versatile and can not just be stuck at DH and spot start LF. ----------------------------------------- Jeffery Todd believes Micheal Brantley is the Astros top choice when it comes to signing an OF. I brought up Derek Dietrich as a signing aswell and he said it would be a great add because of his utility role with Diaz would cover all but Catcher. Which would make Yuli Gurriel expendable. ----------------------------------------- Nathan Evoildi its probably the most likely Sp the Astros have talked about as a FA deal. But they are looking over the league for trades for younger pitchers name to watch Dylan Bundy or Jon Gray. ----------------------------------------- Surprisingly the Astros aren't really Linked to any Relief Pitchers. ALTHOUGH names to watch Britton, Robertson, Kelly and Familia. ----------------------------------------- Surprise Charlie Morton is believed to be coming back on a 2yr deal. No one Believes the Astros will retain Marwin Gonzalez or Dallas Keuchal. Watch for Evan Gattis.. Reading chat comments from Jeffrey Todd on mlbtraderumors is not "talking to him". 😃 You ruined his day and busted his balloon.  If you read that closely, he thinks Goldschmidt, Realmuto and Cruz are all coming to Houston and we will re-sign Morton. The most likely ones to happen is the signing of Cruz and the re-signing of Morton. Outside chance of Tucker being dealt for Realmuto, but, I tend to think we try to either trade for Perez or sign Ramos. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 30, 2018 3:17:59 GMT -6
Ok so after some searching and reading talking to Jeffery Todd and a couple guys from House of Houston. J.T. Realmuto for Kyle Tucker and Christian Javier should get the deal done. The amount of Catchers on the Market as of now is insane. Alot of Gms are thinking his price might lower alittle bit but not much. ----------------------------------------- Paul Goldschmidt seems to be the hot name that atleast 5 top writer's think could be an Astro. Tyler White, Cionel Perez, Framber Valdez and Rogelio Armentaros. It's just enough of a trade value to make sure the Diamondbacks get a replacement 1B. And three pitchers all three would be ready to go come Spring training to fight for Corbins spot and or Grienkes if he is traded. ----------------------------------------- House of Houston believes Nelson Cruz might have atleast a two year contract on the Table. But as some may have seen they want Cruz to learn 1B aswell so he is versatile and can not just be stuck at DH and spot start LF. ----------------------------------------- Jeffery Todd believes Micheal Brantley is the Astros top choice when it comes to signing an OF. I brought up Derek Dietrich as a signing aswell and he said it would be a great add because of his utility role with Diaz would cover all but Catcher. Which would make Yuli Gurriel expendable. ----------------------------------------- Nathan Evoildi its probably the most likely Sp the Astros have talked about as a FA deal. But they are looking over the league for trades for younger pitchers name to watch Dylan Bundy or Jon Gray. ----------------------------------------- Surprisingly the Astros aren't really Linked to any Relief Pitchers. ALTHOUGH names to watch Britton, Robertson, Kelly and Familia. ----------------------------------------- Surprise Charlie Morton is believed to be coming back on a 2yr deal. No one Believes the Astros will retain Marwin Gonzalez or Dallas Keuchal. Watch for Evan Gattis.. Reading chat comments from Jeffrey Todd on mlbtraderumors is not "talking to him". 😃 His Twitter not chat you cant even get a response on mlbtraderumors |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 30, 2018 3:21:08 GMT -6
Reading chat comments from Jeffrey Todd on mlbtraderumors is not "talking to him". 😃 You ruined his day and busted his balloon. If you read that closely, he thinks Goldschmidt, Realmuto and Cruz are all coming to Houston and we will re-sign Morton. The most likely ones to happen is the signing of Cruz and the re-signing of Morton. Outside chance of Tucker being dealt for Realmuto, but, I tend to think we try to either trade for Perez or sign Ramos. Nah if you read all the Lunhow interview he was only saying Whitley was untouchable. He repeated several times. Tucker was a different story. I'm not saying any of this will happen I'm saying what the people say is suggested. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 30, 2018 7:12:55 GMT -6
Would you rather have:
Sign Ramos for a 2 year contract and Keep Tucker or trade Tucker + another top ten prospect for Realmuto and his 2 year contract.
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Post by m240 on Nov 30, 2018 7:56:24 GMT -6
Ramos or Grandal for 3 and keep Tucker. Syndergaard is not going anywhere now.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 30, 2018 8:09:14 GMT -6
I would think Ramos being 31, he might be willing to take a 2 year with 3rd year option.
Grandal, unwisely, turned down a $17.9M QO....I will hedge he is wanting more than 3 years.
I am banking on Stubb's being the future, so the less the commitment on a FA catcher the better for the Astros.
I have reversed my thinking of late, with 2020 rotation up in the air, I would rather the Astros keep top prospects.
If Verlander and Cole were at least on contract until 2021 I would be for trading top prospects to maximize the 3 year WS contending window....
but seeing it could be a big changing of the guard at the top 2 in rotation for 2020, I advocate just taking short term FA contracts and promote from within.
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 8:28:36 GMT -6
Would you rather have: Sign Ramos for a 2 year contract and Keep Tucker or trade Tucker + another top ten prospect for Realmuto and his 2 year contract. Ramos or Grandal. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 30, 2018 8:38:22 GMT -6
there are several scenarios where we stay competitive past this year, I think that if we sign/ trade for someone for multiple years this off season and next we can stay at the top for a while. If we make the decision to not go all in this winter then quite frankly it makes more sense to trade Verlander and Cole. We have to remember that our division looks to be weaker next year with Seattle giving up the ghost.
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 8:51:14 GMT -6
What are the Mets doing?
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 30, 2018 9:31:42 GMT -6
Would you rather have: Sign Ramos for a 2 year contract and Keep Tucker or trade Tucker + another top ten prospect for Realmuto and his 2 year contract. easy choce......sign Ramos and keep Tucker. However, before signing Ramos I'd see if I could get Salvador Perez without dealing Tucker or Whitley. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 9:33:16 GMT -6
I just read that NYM and Seattle were nearing a deal. Wonder if they're trading Cano for Thor. Looks like the Mets and Mariners are close to finalizing the deal to send Cano and Diaz to NY. I’m glad we won’t be looking at Diaz in the AL West next season. Yeah, and Cano as well! He always seems to hammer us. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 30, 2018 9:33:27 GMT -6
Would you rather have: Sign Ramos for a 2 year contract and Keep Tucker or trade Tucker + another top ten prospect for Realmuto and his 2 year contract. Ramos or Grandal. Ramos is the one I'd want. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 30, 2018 9:34:27 GMT -6
Looks like the Mets and Mariners are close to finalizing the deal to send Cano and Diaz to NY. I’m glad we won’t be looking at Diaz in the AL West next season. Yeah, and Cano as well! He always seems to hammer us. Seattle must really be in rebuilding mode if they are dealing Diaz. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 30, 2018 9:40:40 GMT -6
Duquette is predicting "Seven years, $175 million for Patrick Corbin".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 9:51:08 GMT -6
Duquette is predicting "Seven years, $175 million for Patrick Corbin". Seems like a lot for a pitcher of his caliber. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 30, 2018 10:37:53 GMT -6
Duquette is predicting "Seven years, $175 million for Patrick Corbin". Jeez, how much is Cole going to be? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 30, 2018 10:38:45 GMT -6
Yeah, and Cano as well! He always seems to hammer us. Seattle must really be in rebuilding mode if they are dealing Diaz. Better for us for the time being |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 30, 2018 10:55:33 GMT -6
Seattle must really be in rebuilding mode if they are dealing Diaz. Better for us for the time being my sentiments exactly. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 11:01:41 GMT -6
Duquette is predicting "Seven years, $175 million for Patrick Corbin". That's insane. And if that ends up being the case, a 5-year $100 million deal for Keuchel doesn't seem so far-fetched now... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 30, 2018 11:04:45 GMT -6
Duquette is predicting "Seven years, $175 million for Patrick Corbin". That's insane. And if that ends up being the case, a 5-year $100 million deal for Keuchel doesn't seem so far-fetched now... Offer Cole 5 years/$125M, 6th and 7th year options? or is that too low now? |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 30, 2018 11:42:28 GMT -6
Didn’t the new Mets GM say that their intention is to win now? If that is the case, he has his work cut out for him. The Mets bullpen ranked 28th in ERA last season at 4.96. Mets first basemen ranked 28th in OPS at .696. Their shortstops ranked 24th in OPS at .672. Their third basemen ranked 28th in OPS at .648. Their center fielders ranked 21st in OPS .688. Jay Bruce, their regular right fielder, had a OPS of .691. Their catchers ranked 22nd in OPS at .652. Overall their team OPS ranked 21st. That’s a lot to fix in one offseason in order to “win now.” Rumor concerning their trade for Diaz and Cano is that Bruce will go to Seattle in the deal. Cano’s bat (.823 OPS last season) is a big improvement over Bruce. Swarzak and Gerson Bautista are supposedly headed to Seattle. Diaz is obviously a big improvement over those guys. McNeil... the Mets second baseman in the second half of last season... batted .329 with a OPS of .852. I’m thinking Cano would play first base, if the trade is made. His .823 OPS applied as a team stat for first basemen would have ranked #9 in 2018. Todd Frazier is locked in at third base. So, if the Mets are truly intending to “win now,” and if this trade goes through, one would think the Mets would be looking to improve at C, CF and RF. The Mets one strength was the starting pitching which ranked 5th in ERA at 3.54. In Thor and Degrom the Mets have two #1 type pitchers. I guess they intend to use Syndergaard in a trade to get help at C, CF and/or RF and replace him with a #2-#5 type SP. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 11:51:13 GMT -6
That's insane. And if that ends up being the case, a 5-year $100 million deal for Keuchel doesn't seem so far-fetched now... Offer Cole 5 years/$125M, 6th and 7th year options? or is that too low now? I think it's a good starting point but I don't know if that's enough. Maybe see what Corbin and Keuchel actually end up getting first. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 30, 2018 11:52:59 GMT -6
Offer Cole 5 years/$125M, 6th and 7th year options? or is that too low now? I think it's a good starting point but I don't know if that's enough. Maybe see what Corbin and Keuchel actually end up getting first. Offer Cole a 5 year/$140M contract. If that's not enough move on. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 11:54:45 GMT -6
Didn’t the new Mets GM say that their intention is to win now? If that is the case, he has his work cut out for him. The Mets bullpen ranked 28th in ERA last season at 4.96. Mets first basemen ranked 28th in OPS at .696. Their shortstops ranked 24th in OPS at .672. Their third basemen ranked 28th in OPS at .648. Their center fielders ranked 21st in OPS .688. Jay Bruce, their regular right fielder, had a OPS of .691. Their catchers ranked 22nd in OPS at .652. Overall their team OPS ranked 21st. That’s a lot to fix in one offseason in order to “win now.” Rumor concerning their trade for Diaz and Cano is that Bruce will go to Seattle in the deal. Cano’s bat (.823 OPS last season) is a big improvement over Bruce. Swarzak and Gerson Bautista are supposedly headed to Seattle. Diaz is obviously a big improvement over those guys. McNeil... the Mets second baseman in the second half of last season... batted .329 with a OPS of .852. I’m thinking Cano would play first base, if the trade is made. His .823 OPS applied as a team stat for first basemen would have ranked #9 in 2018. Todd Frazier is locked in at third base. So, if the Mets are truly intending to “win now,” and if this trade goes through, one would think the Mets would be looking to improve at C, CF and RF. The Mets one strength was the starting pitching which ranked 5th in ERA at 3.54. In Thor and Degrom the Mets have two #1 type pitchers. I guess they intend to use Syndergaard in a trade to get help at C, CF and/or RF and replace him with a #2-#5 type SP. The deal only makes sense if they keep Syndergaard to me. Why lose one of the top NL pitchers when healthy when you can upgrade those other areas through free agency? Pitching wins it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 30, 2018 12:07:16 GMT -6
Offer Cole 5 years/$125M, 6th and 7th year options? or is that too low now? I think it's a good starting point but I don't know if that's enough. Maybe see what Corbin and Keuchel actually end up getting first. Cole is worth a hell of a lot more than Keuchel. If Corbin gets the deal we keep hearing about, I can see Cole getting more than $25 million a year. We need to start trying to extend Cole and Verlander now. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 30, 2018 12:13:31 GMT -6
Didn’t the new Mets GM say that their intention is to win now? If that is the case, he has his work cut out for him. The Mets bullpen ranked 28th in ERA last season at 4.96. Mets first basemen ranked 28th in OPS at .696. Their shortstops ranked 24th in OPS at .672. Their third basemen ranked 28th in OPS at .648. Their center fielders ranked 21st in OPS .688. Jay Bruce, their regular right fielder, had a OPS of .691. Their catchers ranked 22nd in OPS at .652. Overall their team OPS ranked 21st. That’s a lot to fix in one offseason in order to “win now.” Rumor concerning their trade for Diaz and Cano is that Bruce will go to Seattle in the deal. Cano’s bat (.823 OPS last season) is a big improvement over Bruce. Swarzak and Gerson Bautista are supposedly headed to Seattle. Diaz is obviously a big improvement over those guys. McNeil... the Mets second baseman in the second half of last season... batted .329 with a OPS of .852. I’m thinking Cano would play first base, if the trade is made. His .823 OPS applied as a team stat for first basemen would have ranked #9 in 2018. Todd Frazier is locked in at third base. So, if the Mets are truly intending to “win now,” and if this trade goes through, one would think the Mets would be looking to improve at C, CF and RF. The Mets one strength was the starting pitching which ranked 5th in ERA at 3.54. In Thor and Degrom the Mets have two #1 type pitchers. I guess they intend to use Syndergaard in a trade to get help at C, CF and/or RF and replace him with a #2-#5 type SP. The deal only makes sense if they keep Syndergaard to me. Why lose one of the top NL pitchers when healthy when you can upgrade those other areas through free agency? Pitching wins it. I agree. I’ve got to wonder what is going on that is motivating a trade of Syndergaard. I read somewhere that Thor was formerly a client of the new Mets GM. I don’t know what the circumstances were surrounding Thor’s leaving the guy’s agency. Maybe some bad blood there? I don’t know. Syndergaard has had his injury issues. Maybe the new GM does not want Thor on his team and is using the past injury issues as a way to get the ownership to go along with trading the guy? Who knows? Like you said..., if this trade goes through for Diaz and Cano, it doesn’t make sense to trade Thor. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 12:14:27 GMT -6
I think it's a good starting point but I don't know if that's enough. Maybe see what Corbin and Keuchel actually end up getting first. Cole is worth a hell of a lot more than Keuchel. If Corbin gets the deal we keep hearing about, I can see Cole getting more than $25 million a year. We need to start trying to extend Cole and Verlander now. "Cole is worth a hell of a lot more than Keuchel." I disagree on being worth a "hell of a lot more" but he is certainly worth more than either of those guys That's why we need to see what they're going to get before we even look at an extension with Cole. Verlander on the other hand, I think it would be worth it to us to offer him a 3-year extension right now. You're going to end up overpaying on the back end, but he'll still put butts in seats as his HoF career draws to a close. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 12:25:01 GMT -6
The deal only makes sense if they keep Syndergaard to me. Why lose one of the top NL pitchers when healthy when you can upgrade those other areas through free agency? Pitching wins it. I agree. I’ve got to wonder what is going on that is motivating a trade of Syndergaard. I read somewhere that Thor was formerly a client of the new Mets GM. I don’t know what the circumstances were surrounding Thor’s leaving the guy’s agency. Maybe some bad blood there? I don’t know. Syndergaard has had his injury issues. Maybe the new GM does not want Thor on his team and is using the past injury issues as a way to get the ownership to go along with trading the guy? Who knows? Like you said..., if this trade goes through for Diaz and Cano, it doesn’t make sense to trade Thor. I can only think that they want to trade him before another potential injury when his value is high. I don't pay enough attention to GMs and agents and such outside of Boras to even remember that. I don't know what Seattle is doing either. They had a team that had a chance to do something last year if they built it up a little more this offseason. I guess they're just starting to worry about payroll. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 30, 2018 12:41:17 GMT -6
Duquette is predicting "Seven years, $175 million for Patrick Corbin". Barf. |
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