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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 8:26:05 GMT -6
It’s simple. They made the offer to DK because they know he probably won’t take it (which gets them a draft pick). They didn’t offer to Marwin, because he MIGHT take it, and everyone except this forum knows Marwin isn’t worth $18,000,000. i think they’re probably working on a contract with Morton. I think you're exactly right. Hopefully they're looking at a 2-year deal with Marwin for $10-20 million. Cheaper than the QO and we maintain some depth in case White/Tucker/etc. don't step up. I would do the same thing with Morton. I will have to remember this........could be the first time you and I fully agree. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 30, 2018 10:11:23 GMT -6
I think you're exactly right. Hopefully they're looking at a 2-year deal with Marwin for $10-20 million. Cheaper than the QO and we maintain some depth in case White/Tucker/etc. don't step up. I would do the same thing with Morton. I will have to remember this........could be the first time you and I fully agree. Well, I would still just give them all QOs if it was up to me. I'm not sure we want them past another year, but, if they're worried about overpaying for a year, a 2-year deal is a little more value for the team. We'll see. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 11:15:05 GMT -6
I expect them to offer two-year deals to Marwin and Morton. I hope they get worked out.
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Post by marshall on Oct 30, 2018 12:05:21 GMT -6
So, apparently Cora and a lot of his players have "animosity" toward Trump, and are likely to decide not to attend the White House celebration. Then they can join the NFL in the No Watch Zone and cry to themselves till their stone cold hearts fade into oblivion. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 12:38:50 GMT -6
So, apparently Cora and a lot of his players have "animosity" toward Trump, and are likely to decide not to attend the White House celebration. Then they can join the NFL in the No Watch Zone and cry to themselves till their stone cold hearts fade into oblivion. I am so sick of these "entitled" crybabies whining if everything they want isn't handed to them by the government. Most of these players who are complaining about Trump are multi-millionaires......How much of their salaries are they donating to Puerto Rico?? |
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Post by olpapa on Oct 30, 2018 12:49:38 GMT -6
I expect them to offer two-year deals to Marwin and Morton. I hope they get worked out. I expect Luhnow to make the QO to Morton and I think he will take it. I don’t expect that Luhnow will make the QO to Marwin, but I do think he will try to re-sign him to a 2 year deal...maybe even 3 year, but I doubt it. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 30, 2018 13:37:43 GMT -6
Option declined on Logan Morrison. What do people think about him as a potential low risk/high reward DH/1B signing?
He could probably be signed for a very small deal coming off a horrible year, but only one year removed from: 38 HR 85 RBI 133 OPS+
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 30, 2018 13:50:22 GMT -6
Option declined on Logan Morrison. What do people think about him as a potential low risk/high reward DH/1B signing? He could probably be signed for a very small deal coming off a horrible year, but only one year removed from: 38 HR 85 RBI 133 OPS+ He’s too all or nothing for me. If he replaces Gattis, what have we really gained? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 13:55:15 GMT -6
Option declined on Logan Morrison. What do people think about him as a potential low risk/high reward DH/1B signing? He could probably be signed for a very small deal coming off a horrible year, but only one year removed from: 38 HR 85 RBI 133 OPS+ A couple of years ago, I might have wanted to give him a shot,but, not now. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 13:57:44 GMT -6
I expect them to offer two-year deals to Marwin and Morton. I hope they get worked out. I expect Luhnow to make the QO to Morton and I think he will take it. I don’t expect that Luhnow will make the QO to Marwin, but I do think he will try to re-sign him to a 2 year deal...maybe even 3 year, but I doubt it. Seems like signing Marwin to a two-three year deal could solve more than one problem. He can still be the utility guy we need to play all over the field,but, could also provide a switch-hitting DH. Luhnow needs to get this deal done. If they think Tucker will be ready as the regular LF'er, what do they plan to do with Kemp? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 30, 2018 14:35:00 GMT -6
When considering Marwin as DH, don't forget the 1/2 a season of sucking at the plate that we got from him this season.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 30, 2018 14:42:48 GMT -6
When considering Marwin as DH, don't forget the 1/2 a season of sucking at the plate that we got from him this season. Another problem with Marwin is using him as DH takes away half his value (versatility). |
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Post by Saint on Oct 30, 2018 14:47:31 GMT -6
Option declined on Logan Morrison. What do people think about him as a potential low risk/high reward DH/1B signing? He could probably be signed for a very small deal coming off a horrible year, but only one year removed from: 38 HR 85 RBI 133 OPS+ He’s too all or nothing for me. If he replaces Gattis, what have we really gained? He was considerably better than Gattis in 2017. Heck, he was arguably the best DH in the AL in 2017 outside of Nelson Cruz, but Cruz will be quite a bit more expensive. Just throwing it out there. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 30, 2018 14:48:24 GMT -6
Marwin at DH is a poor poor choice. He's depth and injury/suckage replacement.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 30, 2018 14:49:28 GMT -6
Marwin at DH is a poor poor choice. He's depth and injury/suckage replacement. Amen. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 30, 2018 14:50:17 GMT -6
He’s too all or nothing for me. If he replaces Gattis, what have we really gained? He was considerably better than Gattis in 2017. Heck, he was arguably the best DH in the AL in 2017 outside of Nelson Cruz, but Cruz will be quite a bit more expensive. Just throwing it out there. Cruz is too old. However, we’d be a good fit with our young core. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 15:02:00 GMT -6
Marwin at DH is a poor poor choice. He's depth and injury/suckage replacement. So, we can assume you want to dump Marwin? Which TWO players would you like to sign to replace him? I don't think he should be a full time DH, but, if he's hitting, it is a way to keep him in the lineup |
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Post by Saint on Oct 30, 2018 15:10:02 GMT -6
Marwin at DH is a poor poor choice. He's depth and injury/suckage replacement. So, we can assume you want to dump Marwin? Which TWO players would you like to sign to replace him? I don't think he should be a full time DH, but, if he's hitting, it is a way to keep him in the lineup No I'm not saying to dump him, but he is certainly not somebody I would spend a ton of money on. Bregman can be moved around, and Gurriel and Kemp can play multiple positions if necessary. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 30, 2018 16:20:45 GMT -6
So, we can assume you want to dump Marwin? Which TWO players would you like to sign to replace him? I don't think he should be a full time DH, but, if he's hitting, it is a way to keep him in the lineup No I'm not saying to dump him, but he is certainly not somebody I would spend a ton of money on. Bregman can be moved around, and Gurriel and Kemp can play multiple positions if necessary. Nailed it. Marwin would be excellent as a bench player, but he won’t accept that role anymore. There’s no money in it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 16:47:02 GMT -6
No I'm not saying to dump him, but he is certainly not somebody I would spend a ton of money on. Bregman can be moved around, and Gurriel and Kemp can play multiple positions if necessary. Nailed it. Marwin would be excellent as a bench player, but he won’t accept that role anymore. There’s no money in it. Dumping Marwin probably means we have to keep TWO guys on the 25-man roster to cover what Marwin does. We can pay two or we can pay Marwin. Who is on the market that is a better option that Luhnow would sign? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 30, 2018 17:13:55 GMT -6
I just can't get past how lazy Marwin looked during the 5 months that he sucked ass this season. No way in hell I'd pay him much at all. Let him walk.
I do realize I'm probably alone in this thinking, just like I was alone when I pointed out at the beginning of the year that he wouldn't repeat his 2017 fluke season.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 18:31:55 GMT -6
I just can't get past how lazy Marwin looked during the 5 months that he sucked ass this season. No way in hell I'd pay him much at all. Let him walk. I do realize I'm probably alone in this thinking, just like I was alone when I pointed out at the beginning of the year that he wouldn't repeat his 2017 fluke season. That laziness pissed me off and I was ready to dump him. Then, out of nowhere, he turned it around and was one of our most productive players, especially while Correa and Altuve were out. He was one reason why we won the AL West with guys out with injuries. On another note, I heard the Rangers are not getting the Clapp as manager.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 22:07:30 GMT -6
mlb.com has a list of the top 25 free agents complete with teams said to be interested. Marwin is listed at #25 and they think he will get a contract similar to the one signed by Eduardo Escobar which was 3 years/$21 million. If he will sign that deal and Luhnow won't give it to him, we will live to regret it.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 30, 2018 22:09:31 GMT -6
I believe Gerardo Parra has made the Astros Radar.
I ALSO believe the Astros cant drop the ball on J.T.Realmuto
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 30, 2018 22:10:59 GMT -6
I believe also Daniel Murphy is on the Astros radar. But doubt he comes. They were really after him when he got put on waivers.
But idk how true that was
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 30, 2018 23:07:59 GMT -6
I believe also Daniel Murphy is on the Astros radar. But doubt he comes. They were really after him when he got put on waivers. But idk how true that was The only way I can see them getting Murphy is if they know they won't re-sign Marwin and I don't think Luhnow would give up enough to get Realmuto. Left-hander Patrick Corbin is also a guy the Astros seem to be interested in. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 30, 2018 23:27:58 GMT -6
I believe also Daniel Murphy is on the Astros radar. But doubt he comes. They were really after him when he got put on waivers. But idk how true that was Murphy would have to play 1B or LF for this to make sense. They said Tucker was basically the guy in front of the Crawfords. That leaves 1B. Does moving Gurriel to DH really make the offense that much better? Not as much as having Realmuto. |
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Post by m240 on Oct 31, 2018 7:02:04 GMT -6
I expect Luhnow to make the QO to Morton and I think he will take it. I don’t expect that Luhnow will make the QO to Marwin, but I do think he will try to re-sign him to a 2 year deal...maybe even 3 year, but I doubt it. Seems like signing Marwin to a two-three year deal could solve more than one problem. He can still be the utility guy we need to play all over the field,but, could also provide a switch-hitting DH. Luhnow needs to get this deal done. If they think Tucker will be ready as the regular LF'er, what do they plan to do with Kemp? I have read that Marwin gets a little bit more than Escobar got something like 3 years and 24-30 million. I have also read that Keuchel is not expected to get as much as Arrieta got last year and most likely a late signing for around 3 years and 70 million. Nothing on Morton yet but my guess is that he stays with us. I would also give Marwin that projected deal but good bye there Dallas. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 31, 2018 8:13:01 GMT -6
I have a new feeling on Marwin I do believe he is gone.
I think they are looking for other options there and J.T. and Pitching are there concerns
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Post by Saint on Oct 31, 2018 9:49:05 GMT -6
I just can't get past how lazy Marwin looked during the 5 months that he sucked ass this season. No way in hell I'd pay him much at all. Let him walk. I do realize I'm probably alone in this thinking, just like I was alone when I pointed out at the beginning of the year that he wouldn't repeat his 2017 fluke season. I'm pretty sure you weren't alone pointing out his fluke season. I know I did for sure, and I believe Bear and some others did too. He was never going to sustain what he did in 2017 just like Reddick wasn't going to either. But, I think they both have the potential to be better than they were in 2018. |
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