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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:12:04 GMT -6
I'm just not sure signing a will-be 32 year old 1B should be a priority us for next off-season with the pitching holes we'll have. I guess we'll see what kind of production we get in 2019. He will resign with St. LOUIS The club is a perfect match for him. 4yr 100m Again, you are talking out of your ass and speculating. You have absolutely no clue where he will sign, the number of years he will get, or how much money will be involved. You also don't know WHO makes him an offer that he will accept. If Crane and Luhnow want him, the money is there to get him. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 5, 2018 17:12:16 GMT -6
I'm just not sure signing a will-be 32 year old 1B should be a priority us for next off-season with the pitching holes we'll have. I guess we'll see what kind of production we get in 2019. Good point, but he seems to avoid the injury bug, and appears to do well with his conditioning. (155 games + in 5 of his last 6 seasons). I vote for a '20 signing. Yeah, I'm good with it if it's reasonable. Especially if it looks like we won't be able to extend Springer. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:13:18 GMT -6
I hope he wants to come home. Texas Forever! No doubt But he is in a place where they work big magic long term deals. MCGUIRE, EDMUNDS ETC All acquired and stayed long term If they work "magic and long term deals", why did they lose Pujols to the Angels? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 17:14:40 GMT -6
Good point, but he seems to avoid the injury bug, and appears to do well with his conditioning. (155 games + in 5 of his last 6 seasons). I vote for a '20 signing. Yeah, I'm good with it if it's reasonable. Especially if it looks like we won't be able to extend Springer. Same here. At his age I am sensing maybe a 3/75-85M deal. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 5, 2018 17:15:21 GMT -6
Pujols to the Angels was a LOSS for the Cardinals? First time I heard that one
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 5, 2018 17:15:34 GMT -6
Omg you are way the hell out of the loop arent you?
Cards wanna lock him up tryed to set up a 72hr window with him Diamondbacks denied them.
Jesus christ watch he will get a long term deal fast
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:16:53 GMT -6
Pujols to the Angels was a LOSS for the Cardinals? First time I heard that one considering the numbers he put up in St.Louis and what they did while he was there, i would call it a loss. What have they done since he left? Nothing. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2018 17:18:45 GMT -6
Good point, but he seems to avoid the injury bug, and appears to do well with his conditioning. (155 games + in 5 of his last 6 seasons). I vote for a '20 signing. Yeah, I'm good with it if it's reasonable. Especially if it looks like we won't be able to extend Springer. I like to have options and I don't see Correa and Springer going to both re-sign, so Goldschmidt has more reasons to sign here...he is a big Astros fan. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 5, 2018 17:20:35 GMT -6
Pujols to the Angels was a LOSS for the Cardinals? First time I heard that one considering the numbers he put up in St.Louis and what they did while he was there, i would call it a loss. What have they done since he left? Nothing.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 17:21:58 GMT -6
No doubt But he is in a place where they work big magic long term deals. MCGUIRE, EDMUNDS ETC All acquired and stayed long term If they work "magic and long term deals", why did the lose Pujols to the Angels? And the funny thing about it, probably the best move they ever made. ACE's (Ass Diamonds) boy still gets the following : - $87M additonally through 2021
- $10M personal services contract after he retires for 10 years $100M
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 5, 2018 17:24:09 GMT -6
If they work "magic and long term deals", why did the lose Pujols to the Angels? And the funny thing about it, probably the best move they ever made. ACE's (Ass Diamonds) boy still gets the following : - $87M additonally through 2021
- $10M personal services contract after he retires for 10 years $100M
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 5, 2018 17:25:31 GMT -6
I'll just say this one last time
If the Astros dont go and get Realmuto its gonna be a long offseason
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 5, 2018 17:28:00 GMT -6
Cardinals acquired 1B Paul Goldschmidt from the Diamondbacks for RHP Luke Weaver, C Carson Kelly, INF Andrew Young, and a 2019 Competitive Balance Round B draft pick. Can you read? Maybe you got Jake pubes in your eye. Take a minute. Okay..... MLB.com now reporting a trade with STL. This sucks. Nathan is awaiting your mea culpa, sir |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:30:24 GMT -6
And the funny thing about it, probably the best move they ever made. ACE's (Ass Diamonds) boy still gets the following : - $87M additonally through 2021
- $10M personal services contract after he retires for 10 years $100M
He was still putting up great numbers BEFORE he signed with the Angels. It is strange that a lot of guys put up good numbers before signing with the Angels..........CJ Wilson was a pretty good pitcher for the Rangers but was horrible and stayed injured in LA. The Angels signed Josh Hamilton and then had to pay the Rangers to take him back. pujois has steadily declined since he left St, Louis.......age and injury has a lot to do with it. The Angels will be paying him off for several years, |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:31:29 GMT -6
I really hope Luhnow is not content with what we have.........especially the starting pitching.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2018 17:33:49 GMT -6
I'll just say this one last time If the Astros dont go and get Realmuto its gonna be a long offseason I hope for a long off-season. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 5, 2018 17:36:39 GMT -6
Pujols to the Angels was a LOSS for the Cardinals? First time I heard that one considering the numbers he put up in St.Louis and what they did while he was there, i would call it a loss. What have they done since he left? Nothing. What have the cards done since Albert left? Kept $30 mm a year in their pockets while he rode the Injury Train |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 5, 2018 17:43:53 GMT -6
not to mention he can't field a position anymore. Or beat a tortoise to first base He was still putting up great numbers BEFORE he signed with the Angels. It is strange that a lot of guys put up good numbers before signing with the Angels..........CJ Wilson was a pretty good pitcher for the Rangers but was horrible and stayed injured in LA. The Angels signed Josh Hamilton and then had to pay the Rangers to take him back. pujois has steadily declined since he left St, Louis.......age and injury has a lot to do with it. The Angels will be paying him off for several years, |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:46:52 GMT -6
considering the numbers he put up in St.Louis and what they did while he was there, i would call it a loss. What have they done since he left? Nothing. What have the cards done since Albert left? Kept $30 mm a year in their pockets while he rode the Injury Train they ain't won a damn thing since he left....that is my point . We saved a lot of money when McLane let Hampton, Wagner, and those guys walk, too, But, we didn't win squat until Drayton sold the team and Crane and Luhnow rebuilt it. And regarding Charlie Morton..........he won't ask for something unreasonable. Besides, he earned whatever he gets in game 7 of the 2017 World Series. If they don't sign him, they are nuts. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2018 17:47:51 GMT -6
What have the cards done since Albert left? Kept $30 mm a year in their pockets while he road the Injury Train they ain't won a damn thing since he left....that is my point . We saved a lot of money when McLane let Hampton, Wagner, and those guys walk, too, But, we didn't win squat until Drayton sold the team and Crane and Luhnow rebuilt it. And regarding Charlie Morton..........he won't ask for something unreasonable. Besides, he earned whatever he gets in game 7 of the 2017 World Series. If they don't sign him, they are nuts. It has to be the shoulder. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:48:02 GMT -6
He was still putting up great numbers BEFORE he signed with the Angels. It is strange that a lot of guys put up good numbers before signing with the Angels..........CJ Wilson was a pretty good pitcher for the Rangers but was horrible and stayed injured in LA. The Angels signed Josh Hamilton and then had to pay the Rangers to take him back. pujois has steadily declined since he left St, Louis.......age and injury has a lot to do with it. The Angels will be paying him off for several years, i am not arguing the fact that the Cardinals saved millions........my point is they have not won a damn thing without Pujols |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 5, 2018 17:48:37 GMT -6
they ain't won a damn thing since he left....that is my point . We saved a lot of money when McLane let Hampton, Wagner, and those guys walk, too, But, we didn't win squat until Drayton sold the team and Crane and Luhnow rebuilt it. And regarding Charlie Morton..........he won't ask for something unreasonable. Besides, he earned whatever he gets in game 7 of the 2017 World Series. If they don't sign him, they are nuts. It has to be the shoulder. If they know the shoulder is gone, I understand. We have not heard that as far as I know. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2018 17:54:29 GMT -6
It has to be the shoulder. If they know the shoulder is gone, I understand. We have not heard that as far as I know. Logically it has to be...the Astros need to solidify their rotation, and they didn't even offer Morton a QO...no true suitor has presented themselves on Morton, just speculation... If we all step a step back I am sure we can see things do not add up. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 5, 2018 17:59:16 GMT -6
Win for St. Louis .. loss for Anaheim i am not arguing the fact that the Cardinals saved millions........my point is they have not won a damn thing without Pujols |
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Post by m240 on Dec 5, 2018 18:06:38 GMT -6
If they know the shoulder is gone, I understand. We have not heard that as far as I know. Logically it has to be...the Astros need to solidify their rotation, and they didn't even offer Morton a QO...no true suitor has presented themselves on Morton, just speculation... If we all step a step back I am sure we can see things do not add up. According to the article I read this morning over on the Astros main site, the Astros have the fourth best rotation in baseball as it sits right now. They did freely admit though that to expect to get 5 innings out of Peacock on a regular basis would require mass quantities of cannabis. We need to hurry up and get Happ before the Yankees lock him up. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 18:18:25 GMT -6
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 5, 2018 18:30:09 GMT -6
Speak of Evolidi
17m a year
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Post by m240 on Dec 5, 2018 18:33:38 GMT -6
Boston's rotation was rated as fifth best without Eovaldi. Guess we move back another rung on the pitching side as well. Come on Luhnow do some magic, getting kind of lonely out here. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2018 18:35:16 GMT -6
Around $17m a year, no thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 18:37:55 GMT -6
Around $17m a year, no thank you. If that is true, then I'm glad we did not sign him. |
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