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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 6, 2018 8:49:52 GMT -6
Luhnow and his boner for Abreu. I used to sport a Abreu boner as well... Didn’t the dumbass White Sox say they wanted to keep Abreu for leadership purposes? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 6, 2018 8:53:02 GMT -6
BFAM, I need you to jump aboard the Tucker Wagon....I feel like Jerry Maguire right now holding a goldfish in a plastic bag. Who is coming with me? C'mon BFAM, be my Bridgett Jones!!! They need to get something going. The Cardinals wouldn’t have given up so much if they didn’t think Goldschmidt could be re-signed. They also need to decide their plans for Tucker. To this point I think the Astros are committed to Tucker...let's be as well. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 6, 2018 8:53:31 GMT -6
I used to sport a Abreu boner as well... Didn’t the dumbass White Sox say they wanted to keep Abreu for leadership purposes? They love him there. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 6, 2018 8:54:10 GMT -6
They need to get something going. The Cardinals wouldn’t have given up so much if they didn’t think Goldschmidt could be re-signed. They also need to decide their plans for Tucker. To this point I think the Astros are committed to Tucker...let's be as well. I mean they’re all in or not. The time to decide is now rather than next year. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 8:57:34 GMT -6
I'm kinda leaning towards the rumor I posted earlier. Carlos Sanatana and 8m in 2020 for Joe Smith and two prospects. Santana to first. Follow that up with Zach Grienke. I mean if its money for money and they want some kind of return. Ok Take Reddicks 26 million and give us 34m to cover Grienke. And I'll give you Framber Valdez and two lower prospcts... A solid reliever and two prospects for a 1B that was only 5% above league average offensively and we would still owe about $32 million even if they ate $8....? Super hard pass. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 6, 2018 8:57:54 GMT -6
To this point I think the Astros are committed to Tucker...let's be as well. I mean they’re all in or not. The time to decide is now rather than next year. I think they are all-in what have they shown to show they are not this off-season? |
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 9:04:36 GMT -6
I've always liked Abreu and he'd for sure be cheaper than Goldschmidt, but I go back to giving up prospects for rentals being mostly a bad idea. And, even if White doesn't maintain his 2018 numbers and falls back closer to 2017, you're still just barely improving at 1B. 1B is not a prime area of concern.
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 9:06:31 GMT -6
"The Red Sox have struck a deal to bring back righty Nathan Eovaldi, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). Terms of the agreement, which is pending a physical, have yet to be reported."
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 9:08:14 GMT -6
Keuchel's payday is increasing with each pitcher leaving the market. You gotta believe that the Phillies and Yankees are starting to feel pressured to sign a SP.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 6, 2018 9:09:41 GMT -6
I mean they’re all in or not. The time to decide is now rather than next year. I think they are all-in what have they shown to show they are not this off-season? Just based on all the conjecture you keep reading about. Rumors are fine, but more deals need to be done before prices continue to rise. The Morton and Cruz deals have been slow going one example. What if they end up elsewhere? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 6, 2018 9:10:39 GMT -6
"The Red Sox have struck a deal to bring back righty Nathan Eovaldi, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). Terms of the agreement, which is pending a physical, have yet to be reported." Good. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 6, 2018 9:26:40 GMT -6
Damn again Astros and Dodgers talking to the White Sox about Jose Abreu. We might be able to get Abreu without giving up Tucker/Whitley. If Luhnow trades either one of those guys for Abreu, he needs to be fired. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 6, 2018 9:31:00 GMT -6
"The Red Sox have struck a deal to bring back righty Nathan Eovaldi, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). Terms of the agreement, which is pending a physical, have yet to be reported." Good. Corbin gone........Eovaldi apparently gone..........i am feeling more like we could be bringing Keuchel back. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 9:37:45 GMT -6
Corbin gone........Eovaldi apparently gone..........i am feeling more like we could be bringing Keuchel back. Neither of those guys were people the team had any super interest in, I believe. They reportedly had some interest in Eovaldi if he was a good deal, but I don't think it was ever considered strong interest. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 6, 2018 10:02:45 GMT -6
Astros are not looking on the FA market for a SP.
They want young control
Theres alot of spinning tires going on.
I think Brantley and Cruz will be Astros.
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 10:06:35 GMT -6
4-years $67.5 million for Eovaldi.
Man, how did this mediocre unhealthy pitcher make his way to almost $17 million a season? I don't get it.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 6, 2018 10:16:21 GMT -6
4-years $67.5 million for Eovaldi. Man, how did this mediocre unhealthy pitcher make his way to almost $17 million a season? I don't get it. Thankfully we have Luhnow who doesn’t get caught up in all the hype and overpay. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 10:31:47 GMT -6
4-years $67.5 million for Eovaldi. Man, how did this mediocre unhealthy pitcher make his way to almost $17 million a season? I don't get it. Thankfully we have Luhnow who doesn’t get caught up in all the hype and overpay. I know he throws hard, but am I missing something? |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 6, 2018 10:35:09 GMT -6
Thankfully we have Luhnow who doesn’t get caught up in all the hype and overpay. I know he throws hard, but am I missing something? No. Dombrowski may be though. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 6, 2018 10:38:06 GMT -6
4-years $67.5 million for Eovaldi. Man, how did this mediocre unhealthy pitcher make his way to almost $17 million a season? I don't get it. Joe Buck: That’s 101 on the radar gun. Wow. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 6, 2018 10:41:10 GMT -6
Astros are not looking on the FA market for a SP. They want young control Theres alot of spinning tires going on. I think Brantley and Cruz will be Astros. You think? Why don’t you know??? Where are your sources? |
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 10:45:09 GMT -6
We already have two OFers that have had health concerns, I hope we don't go after Brantley...
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Post by olpapa on Dec 6, 2018 11:05:13 GMT -6
Before I would gut the farm for a rental or overpay in $ and years for FA SP, I would rather go into the season with a rotation of Verlander, Cole, McHugh....not a bad 1-3 actually....and take my chances on two of Peacock, James, Valdez, Cionel Perez and Armenteros covering the 4 & 5 slots and then pick up another, more dominant, SP at the trade deadline for the stretch run. I think we have the makings of a decent bullpen. I really expect that Deetz will make the team out of ST, if he is not traded, and help the team. Valdez and/or Perez in the bullpen wouldn’t be bad. Presley, Devo, Osuna, Rondon..., then there are the arms on the farm who could help out at some point....IMO we have the arms to win the AL West, I think and certainly to get us to the trade deadline in good shape. I am ok with some combination of Chirinos, Stassi and Stubbs handling the catching duties. Honestly I am more concerned about having a legitimate DH from opening day and a legitimate bat in LF than I am about our pitching right now.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 6, 2018 11:10:45 GMT -6
Astros are not looking on the FA market for a SP. They want young control Theres alot of spinning tires going on. I think Brantley and Cruz will be Astros. I suppose you have a "source" who told you the Astros are not looking at FA starting pitchers?  But, you are sworn to secrecy and can't reveal it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 6, 2018 11:11:33 GMT -6
4-years $67.5 million for Eovaldi. Man, how did this mediocre unhealthy pitcher make his way to almost $17 million a season? I don't get it. That is more than twice what I would have offered him. I would have liked to had him, but, on no more than a three year deal for not more than $25-30 million. Keuchel may very well get what he wants. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 6, 2018 11:14:55 GMT -6
I know he throws hard, but am I missing something? No. Dombrowski may be though. Dombrowski is missing common sense. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 6, 2018 11:15:54 GMT -6
We already have two OFers that have had health concerns, I hope we don't go after Brantley... Forget Brantley........sign McCutchen |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 6, 2018 11:18:12 GMT -6
Before I would gut the farm for a rental or overpay in $ and years for FA SP, I would rather go into the season with a rotation of Verlander, Cole, McHugh....not a bad 1-3 actually....and take my chances on two of Peacock, James, Valdez, Cionel Perez and Armenteros covering the 4 & 5 slots and then pick up another, more dominant, SP at the trade deadline for the stretch run. I think we have the makings of a decent bullpen. I really expect that Deetz will make the team out of ST, if he is not traded, and help the team. Valdez and/or Perez in the bullpen wouldn’t be bad. Presley, Devo, Osuna, Rondon..., then there are the arms on the farm who could help out at some point....IMO we have the arms to win the AL West, I think and certainly to get us to the trade deadline in good shape. I am ok with some combination of Chirinos, Stassi and Stubbs handling the catching duties. Honestly I am more concerned about having a legitimate DH from opening day and a legitimate bat in LF than I am about our pitching right now. I don't know that we are clear on how James will be used. He has the stuff to become a closer, but, he can also start. If Valdez can find the strike zone, he is a good option and we need a lefty starter. I hope we are not going to waste a bullpen spot again on the likes of Will Harris. I am also not sold on Devenski. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 11:21:10 GMT -6
Before I would gut the farm for a rental or overpay in $ and years for FA SP, I would rather go into the season with a rotation of Verlander, Cole, McHugh....not a bad 1-3 actually....and take my chances on two of Peacock, James, Valdez, Cionel Perez and Armenteros covering the 4 & 5 slots and then pick up another, more dominant, SP at the trade deadline for the stretch run. I think we have the makings of a decent bullpen. I really expect that Deetz will make the team out of ST, if he is not traded, and help the team. Valdez and/or Perez in the bullpen wouldn’t be bad. Presley, Devo, Osuna, Rondon..., then there are the arms on the farm who could help out at some point....IMO we have the arms to win the AL West, I think and certainly to get us to the trade deadline in good shape. I am ok with some combination of Chirinos, Stassi and Stubbs handling the catching duties. Honestly I am more concerned about having a legitimate DH from opening day and a legitimate bat in LF than I am about our pitching right now. That's how I view it as well. I don't see any reason for us to get crazy and overpay for mediocrity. If the right deal is there go for it, but I don't want to see us get stupid. And, IF we were going to get stupid, please don't get stupid over a 1B... |
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Post by Saint on Dec 6, 2018 11:25:13 GMT -6
4-years $67.5 million for Eovaldi. Man, how did this mediocre unhealthy pitcher make his way to almost $17 million a season? I don't get it. That is more than twice what I would have offered him. I would have liked to had him, but, on no more than a three year deal for not more than $25-30 million. Keuchel may very well get what he wants. So far, mlbtraderumors' predictions have been pretty close. They predicted 6-years $129 million for Corbin, and 4-years $60 million for Eovaldi. Both of those guys got a little more than the projected numbers. They predicted 4-years $82 million for Keuchel. If the pattern continues, he could be looking at 4-years $85-90 million (probably more if he didn't come with losing a draft pick to whomever signs him). I like Keuchel and I think he's probably worth that compared to the free agent market, but that's not money we should be spending on him right now, imo. If we over-pay a free agent pitcher (not that I want us to), I'd rather it be on a shorter term deal. |
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