marshall
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21st Century Luddite
Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood...
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Post by marshall on Dec 7, 2018 7:31:19 GMT -6
If the season started today, who would make the 25 man roster? A Depth chart by position?
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Post by m240 on Dec 7, 2018 7:31:55 GMT -6
My wager would be on Gurriel learning how to shag fly balls. If Tucker hits to his consensus projection it would not surprise me that he takes over in right field at some point next season and Reddick becomes the fourth outfielder by summer. If we get a solid dh then Reddick projects to be our weakest link offensively
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 7, 2018 8:01:24 GMT -6
My wager would be on Gurriel learning how to shag fly balls. If Tucker hits to his consensus projection it would not surprise me that he takes over in right field at some point next season and Reddick becomes the fourth outfielder by summer. If we get a solid dh then Reddick projects to be our weakest link offensively This better be Reddicks year to hit atleast .280 and 25hrs If not u can bet he will be gone after the year
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 7, 2018 8:11:46 GMT -6
I'm beginning to think we'll see Tucker in left for at least 200-250 PA and if he's still struggling at that point, some player on a team already out of it who is having a good year could be picked up for the playoff run. But if Tucker begins doing what they expect, left field is set. The same thing may apply to Realmuto if the Marlins think they can rob someone and don't find a willing victim. Perhaps a mid season trade to a contender might be preferable than holding on to a declining asset based on his shorter club control. But this is PURE SPECULATION and not to be confused with a REPORT or even a RUMOR which has no validity without someone with inside knowledge of the thinking of those who actually put these things together. Repeating other peoples speculation is not even a rumor. It's more speculation. It's fun, but should never be confused with the others. What you said makes sense. Astros probably already feel confident in their chances on winning the AL West, so why not give Tucker plenty of ABs.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 7, 2018 8:24:52 GMT -6
I want a back up plan.
My thoughts are let's sign Avisail Garcia or Derek Dietrich. Use them one of them to back up both Reddick and LF or Start. Sign Brantley 3yrs 45m Sign Cruz 2yrs 30m And go find those players we really need via Trade.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 7, 2018 8:25:46 GMT -6
I want a back up plan. My thoughts are let's sign Avisail Garcia or Derek Dietrich. Use them one of them to back up both Reddick and LF or Start. Sign Brantley 3yrs 45m Sign Cruz 2yrs 30m And go find those players we really need via Trade. The only I see happening is Cruz.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 7, 2018 8:33:18 GMT -6
Would you be opposed to the Astros trading a younger, cheaper, controllable Kemp (blocked) to the Yankees for older, more expensive, 1 year rentals of Sonny Gray and Austine Romine ....(I am sure cash considerations).
Kemp is a bench player.
Sonny Gray - had good away stats and had top ten spin rate (FTR Pressly is #2 in MLB).
Austine Romine - a catcher with good power and pitchers like him.
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Post by Saint on Dec 7, 2018 8:39:28 GMT -6
Would you be opposed to the Astros trading a younger, cheaper, controllable Kemp (blocked) to the Yankees for older, more expensive, 1 year rentals of Sonny Gray and Austine Romine ....(I am sure cash considerations). Kemp is a bench player. Sonny Gray - had good away stats and had top ten spin rate (FTR Pressly is #2 in MLB). Austine Romine - a catcher with good power and pitchers like him. Of course. Kemp is not a major prospect.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 7, 2018 8:40:56 GMT -6
Would you be opposed to the Astros trading a younger, cheaper, controllable Kemp (blocked) to the Yankees for older, more expensive, 1 year rentals of Sonny Gray and Austine Romine ....(I am sure cash considerations). Kemp is a bench player. Sonny Gray - had good away stats and had top ten spin rate (FTR Pressly is #2 in MLB). Austine Romine - a catcher with good power and pitchers like him. I think we could get a better deal up north SANCHEZ OR STROMAN We have decent trades with the Blue Jays
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 7, 2018 8:41:08 GMT -6
Would you be opposed to the Astros trading a younger, cheaper, controllable Kemp (blocked) to the Yankees for older, more expensive, 1 year rentals of Sonny Gray and Austine Romine ....(I am sure cash considerations). Kemp is a bench player. Sonny Gray - had good away stats and had top ten spin rate (FTR Pressly is #2 in MLB). Austine Romine - a catcher with good power and pitchers like him. Of course. Kemp is not a major prospect. But Kemp'en Ain't Easy
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Post by Saint on Dec 7, 2018 8:48:11 GMT -6
Of course. Kemp is not a major prospect. But Kemp'en Ain't Easy Kemp is a solid player, but the only place he makes sense as a legitimate starter is 2B.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 7, 2018 9:08:20 GMT -6
Of those three, Brantley is the clear choice, although keeping Marwin would be my preference if we can't sign McCutchen. It's amazing how you went from pitchforks and torches at Marwin's door to being the president of his fan club.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 7, 2018 9:15:58 GMT -6
Kemp is a solid player, but the only place he makes sense as a legitimate starter is 2B. Astros are doing well contract wise , going into this next season the worst contract it seems to be Reddick: 2 mores at $13M a year. After that I guess it would be Rondon's ($4.5M) or Smith's ($8M), but they both are just have this season left.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 7, 2018 9:24:37 GMT -6
I want a back up plan. My thoughts are let's sign Avisail Garcia or Derek Dietrich. Use them one of them to back up both Reddick and LF or Start. Sign Brantley 3yrs 45m Sign Cruz 2yrs 30m And go find those players we really need via Trade. How long have you been getting it on with Dietrich?
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 7, 2018 9:26:00 GMT -6
Would you be opposed to the Astros trading a younger, cheaper, controllable Kemp (blocked) to the Yankees for older, more expensive, 1 year rentals of Sonny Gray and Austine Romine ....(I am sure cash considerations). Kemp is a bench player. Sonny Gray - had good away stats and had top ten spin rate (FTR Pressly is #2 in MLB). Austine Romine - a catcher with good power and pitchers like him. Of course. Kemp is not a major prospect. DO IT.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 7, 2018 9:27:14 GMT -6
Kemp is a solid player, but the only place he makes sense as a legitimate starter is 2B. But add onto the trade, would you be inclined to do this trade Kemp + Perez For Gray, Romine, Ellsbury (Yankees pay $10M a year for remaining contract 2 years) + Chad Green (controllable through 2022) Yankees really want to dump Ellsbury...is it worth being on the hook for the Astros to still be paying Ellsbury $11M for 2 more years and likely $5M buyout in 2021.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 7, 2018 9:28:39 GMT -6
Of those three, Brantley is the clear choice, although keeping Marwin would be my preference if we can't sign McCutchen. It's amazing how you went from pitchforks and torches at Marwin's door to being the president of his fan club. it's amazing how you seem to think it's wrong to change your mind when a player turns his season around. WHO of the available players is a better option than keeping Marwin? I am also President of the Jake Fan Club.
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 7, 2018 9:33:57 GMT -6
I'm beginning to think we'll see Tucker in left for at least 200-250 PA and if he's still struggling at that point, some player on a team already out of it who is having a good year could be picked up for the playoff run. But if Tucker begins doing what they expect, left field is set. This is a scenario where renting Nick Castellanos makes sense for the first time
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 7, 2018 9:37:04 GMT -6
I'm beginning to think we'll see Tucker in left for at least 200-250 PA and if he's still struggling at that point, some player on a team already out of it who is having a good year could be picked up for the playoff run. But if Tucker begins doing what they expect, left field is set. This is a scenario where renting Nick Castellanos makes sense for the first timeHe’s the perfect rental. You need a player now but not for long term plans. It’s better than what the Cardinals did for Goldschmidt.
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Post by m240 on Dec 7, 2018 9:45:44 GMT -6
I honestly do not think we will be adding an outfielder this off season. Most of us seem to have forgotten Alvarez. Dude tore up AA and after a slow start did quite well in AAA after getting his legs under him. And he is still just a baby. Most have discussed him at 1st base but if he is a 1st baseman why did he not play any there last year. If Tucker start out slow and Alvarez rips it up in Round Rock then watch out for this kid to make some noise. He is rated as the 43rd best prospect I think, I know his ranking is in the 40s so why do we need another outfield bat. I think we go hard for a 1st baseman/dh and pitching at the meetings. Catcher maybe but an outfield add would surprise me.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 7, 2018 9:46:30 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 7, 2018 9:49:56 GMT -6
It's amazing how you went from pitchforks and torches at Marwin's door to being the president of his fan club. it's amazing how you seem to think it's wrong to change your mind when a player turns his season around. WHO of the available players is a better option than keeping Marwin? I am also President of the Jake Fan Club. Maybe it's the vehemence with which you rake players over the coals that surprises people when you become their team dad later. May 1: "This worthless, ugly, blind, gimp piece of dung Marwin should be kicked out of baseball!!!!!!!!1 and castrated so he doesn't reproduce!!!" September 1: "Marwin is so cute in his Astros uni...i hope he never takes it off. Pay him $30 million per year, Luhnow!!! Retire his number!!!!!!!!one"
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 7, 2018 9:57:54 GMT -6
I don't see it happening...I think Phillies, Astros, maybe some NE team and then the Braves... In that order.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 7, 2018 10:06:31 GMT -6
I honestly do not think we will be adding an outfielder this off season. Most of us seem to have forgotten Alvarez. Dude tore up AA and after a slow start did quite well in AAA after getting his legs under him. And he is still just a baby. Most have discussed him at 1st base but if he is a 1st baseman why did he not play any there last year. If Tucker start out slow and Alvarez rips it up in Round Rock then watch out for this kid to make some noise. He is rated as the 43rd best prospect I think, I know his ranking is in the 40s so why do we need another outfield bat. I think we go hard for a 1st baseman/dh and pitching at the meetings. Catcher maybe but an outfield add would surprise me. I haven't I like Yordan. That's why I'm ok with moving Tucker.. But Yordan might be a Dh/1b So thinking ahead Trevor Baur and Jason Kipnis for Joe Smith and some prospects? Anyone
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 7, 2018 10:07:14 GMT -6
it's amazing how you seem to think it's wrong to change your mind when a player turns his season around. WHO of the available players is a better option than keeping Marwin? I am also President of the Jake Fan Club. Maybe it's the vehemence with which you rake players over the coals that surprises people when you become their team dad later. May 1: "This worthless, ugly, blind, gimp piece of dung Marwin should be kicked out of baseball!!!!!!!!1 and castrated so he doesn't reproduce!!!" September 1: "Marwin is so cute in his Astros uni...i hope he never takes it off. Pay him $30 million per year, Luhnow!!! Retire his number!!!!!!!!one" An allegiance is formed between Bortaz and Saint.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 7, 2018 10:08:35 GMT -6
I honestly do not think we will be adding an outfielder this off season. Most of us seem to have forgotten Alvarez. Dude tore up AA and after a slow start did quite well in AAA after getting his legs under him. And he is still just a baby. Most have discussed him at 1st base but if he is a 1st baseman why did he not play any there last year. If Tucker start out slow and Alvarez rips it up in Round Rock then watch out for this kid to make some noise. He is rated as the 43rd best prospect I think, I know his ranking is in the 40s so why do we need another outfield bat. I think we go hard for a 1st baseman/dh and pitching at the meetings. Catcher maybe but an outfield add would surprise me. I haven't I like Yordan. That's why I'm ok with moving Tucker.. But Yordan might be a Dh/1b So thinking ahead Trevor Baur and Jason Kipnis for Joe Smith or JOSH Reddick and some prospects? Anyone So, we get rid of non-stars who get paid a lot and prospects for one of the same and a great pitcher?
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 7, 2018 10:16:26 GMT -6
I kind of want Tucker and Brantley playing together with Reddick on the bench. I know it won’t happen, but there are times when Reddick’s offense hurts.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 7, 2018 10:20:49 GMT -6
I haven't I like Yordan. That's why I'm ok with moving Tucker.. But Yordan might be a Dh/1b So thinking ahead Trevor Baur and Jason Kipnis for Joe Smith or JOSH Reddick and some prospects? Anyone So, we get rid of non-stars who get paid a lot and prospects for one of the same and a great pitcher? No we can do Trevor Baur and Jason Kipnis For Joe Smith J.B., Framber Valdez. Tony Kemp and Cional Perez. Saves the Indians 6m overall
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 7, 2018 10:21:14 GMT -6
I kind of want Tucker and Brantley playing together with Reddick on the bench. I know it won’t happem, but there are times when Reddick’s offense hurts. I think Brantley is the key.
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Post by m240 on Dec 7, 2018 10:34:12 GMT -6
I kind of want Tucker and Brantley playing together with Reddick on the bench. I know it won’t happem, but there are times when Reddick’s offense hurts. well with Brantley saying he wants 20mm per year it will not happen for a couple months best case for what you want. One of the worst things that happened to Reddick last year was starting off the year with power. He feel in love with his power swing/pull swing and everyone started throwing him away and even when he got one down and in (his hot zone) he over swung and actually had a relatively low exit velocity.
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