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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 18:14:59 GMT -6
All I know is we ended up with nothing. Actions speak louder than words. So he should have gone over there and MADE the owners of the Nationals approve the trade. Got it. It’s funny ever since we caught wind that Luhnow had a dealmin place for Harper, I’m so curious who we were trading. I know it doesn’t matter since it didn’t happen, but I am curious. |
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Post by marshall on Dec 11, 2018 18:18:19 GMT -6
I am just ready for him to make moves to strengthen the team. I trust him,but, I can't get over how he sat twiddling his thumbs at the trade deadline last year and failed to get the bat we desperately needed. When you had down years from Springer, Correa, Altuve, Reddick, McCann, and Marwin, it wouldn’t have mattered if Luhnow time traveled and acquired Ted Williams. The team was snakebitten. Since you mentioned Ted Williams, we still have Tucker and Ted Williams' swing. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2018 18:19:44 GMT -6
So he should have gone over there and MADE the owners of the Nationals approve the trade. Got it. It’s funny ever since we caught wind that Luhnow had a dealmin place for Harper, I’m so curious who we were trading. I know it doesn’t matter since it didn’t happen, but I am curious. I read somewhere that it was believed to be J.B. Bukauskas, Garrett Stubbs, and a couple more lower ranked prospects. Might be a 2nd pitcher that I don't recall. |
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Post by marshall on Dec 11, 2018 18:21:44 GMT -6
So he should have gone over there and MADE the owners of the Nationals approve the trade. Got it. It’s funny ever since we caught wind that Luhnow had a dealmin place for Harper, I’m so curious who we were trading. I know it doesn’t matter since it didn’t happen, but I am curious. That's a good reason to play the trades close to the vest until they come to fruition. There's no advantage in telling specific players they were part of a trade proposal beyond the general concept that any of them could be traded (barring a no trade clause) because of the nature of the game.
I'm a real fan of Luhnow's negotiating style and savvy.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2018 18:30:12 GMT -6
If Cruz doesn’t want to come here, so be it. We don’t need a 39-year old DH again here.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 11, 2018 18:30:20 GMT -6
There was some chatter on Harper but it was negative.
Someone tryed to post a feed of Harper to the Cubs. But was shot down by Stark Heyman and Rosenthal.
Stating they dont have the money
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 11, 2018 18:31:02 GMT -6
If Cruz doesn’t want to come here, so be it. We don’t need a 39-year old DH again. No we need a 28ish DH who hits for a .300avg on a poopy team with a pitcher needing a new home. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2018 18:32:12 GMT -6
If Cruz doesn’t want to come here, so be it. We don’t need a 39-year old DH again. No we need a 28ish DH who hits for a .300avg on a poopy team with a pitcher needing a new home. ¿Qué? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2018 18:36:03 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2018 18:37:27 GMT -6
When you had down years from Springer, Correa, Altuve, Reddick, McCann, and Marwin, it wouldn’t have mattered if Luhnow time traveled and acquired Ted Williams. The team was snakebitten. Since you mentioned Ted Williams, we still have Tucker and Ted Williams' swing. I like the Ted Williams comparisons, but let’s save that for when he starts doing well. That’s a lofty measure to reach. |
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Post by marshall on Dec 11, 2018 18:52:59 GMT -6
Since you mentioned Ted Williams, we still have Tucker and Ted Williams' swing. I like the Ted Williams comparisons, but let’s save that for when he starts doing well. That’s a lofty measure to reach. Reproducing his swing is much easier than reproducing his fantastic eyesight and quick twitch muscles. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2018 19:05:46 GMT -6
All I know is we ended up with nothing. Actions speak louder than words. So he should have gone over there and MADE the owners of the Nationals approve the trade. Got it. not what I said or what I meant. All I said was that he didn't get the bat we needed. I'm sure there were other options besides Harper available. I don't want to overpay anyone,but, if we have to in order to compete with the teams that DO overpay, it may be necessary. If we fail to address the need for starting pitching, and a couple of bats, Luhnow has failed and we will pay the price next season. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 11, 2018 19:11:55 GMT -6
I have no complaints about what Luhnow has done or how he does things. It can be frustrating for fans since we want to know everything going on, but I'd do the same thing in his shoes.
moves like that apparently are in his rearview. I anticipate whatever Cruz gets will be more than fans were willing to pay based on these deals we're seeingAgreed. |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 11, 2018 19:13:13 GMT -6
So he should have gone over there and MADE the owners of the Nationals approve the trade. Got it. It’s funny ever since we caught wind that Luhnow had a dealmin place for Harper, I’m so curious who we were trading. I know it doesn’t matter since it didn’t happen, but I am curious. Found this at SI.com: “The Houston Astros reportedly had a deal in place for the Nationals' Bryce Harper at the non-waiver deadline in July but Washington ownership nixed the deal, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The Nationals would have received right-hander J.B. Bukauskas, the Astros’ No. 8 prospect according to MLB.com, and two other minor leaguers, in exchange for Harper. Catcher Garrett Stubbs, the team’s No. 15 prospect, was also reportedly in play, along with another, low-level, minor-league pitcher as well, per Rosenthal. The Astros' offer would have benefitted Washington significantly more than the late-round compensatory pick it will receive in the 2019 draft....” |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 11, 2018 19:13:18 GMT -6
The Astros have been hunting a bat for like three years.
This is why they are linked to Harper.
Young
Power
Can play OF and 1B
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2018 19:17:48 GMT -6
It’s funny ever since we caught wind that Luhnow had a dealmin place for Harper, I’m so curious who we were trading. I know it doesn’t matter since it didn’t happen, but I am curious. Found this at SI.com: “The Houston Astros reportedly had a deal in place for the Nationals' Bryce Harper at the non-waiver deadline in July but Washington ownership nixed the deal, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The Nationals would have received right-hander J.B. Bukauskas, the Astros’ No. 8 prospect according to MLB.com, and two other minor leaguers, in exchange for Harper. Catcher Garrett Stubbs, the team’s No. 15 prospect, was also reportedly in play, along with another, low-level, minor-league pitcher as well, per Rosenthal. The Astros' offer would have benefitted Washington significantly more than the late-round compensatory pick it will receive in the 2019 draft....” Hey hey...my memory is still functioning. |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 11, 2018 19:42:36 GMT -6
Found this at SI.com: “The Houston Astros reportedly had a deal in place for the Nationals' Bryce Harper at the non-waiver deadline in July but Washington ownership nixed the deal, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The Nationals would have received right-hander J.B. Bukauskas, the Astros’ No. 8 prospect according to MLB.com, and two other minor leaguers, in exchange for Harper. Catcher Garrett Stubbs, the team’s No. 15 prospect, was also reportedly in play, along with another, low-level, minor-league pitcher as well, per Rosenthal. The Astros' offer would have benefitted Washington significantly more than the late-round compensatory pick it will receive in the 2019 draft....” Hey hey...my memory is still functioning. Yessir. That would have been a decent return for the Nats. Now they get next to nothing. Must be something in the water in the DC/Baltimore area that impairs decision makers’ thinking. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 11, 2018 19:47:37 GMT -6
Jeff Luhnow said the Astros had a "very productive day."
"We have made a few offers today, both trade offers and free agent offers. Now we play a little bit of the waiting game."
It will get interesting very soon guys hang in there
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Post by Saint on Dec 11, 2018 19:49:09 GMT -6
Hey hey...my memory is still functioning. Yessir. That would have been a decent return for the Nats. Now they get next to nothing. Must be something in the water in the DC/Baltimore area that impairs decision makers’ thinking. Passing on that doesn't make any sense for them. Glad we got to keep Stubbs though. |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 11, 2018 20:05:00 GMT -6
luhnow has ice water in his veins. If he winds up with Realmuto for a reasonable price then buy a chunk of marble and get the sculptures out. This posted on mlbtr a little while ago concerning the possible 3-way deal between the Marlins, Yankees and Mets in which Yanks would get Thor and Mets get Realmuto: “TODAY, 7:20pm: The chances of this three-team deal occurring seem to be fizzling, Martino suggests. 4:23pm: An official involved in the discussions “downplayed” the possibility of a three-team trade involving Syndergaard, Puma tweets. Puma adds that the Marlins do want Rosario and another player from the Mets, likely outfielder Brandon Nimmo. 2:28pm: The Mets are increasingly aggressive in pursuit of Realmuto, sources tell both Heyman (Twitter link) and Sherman (via Twitter).” Maybe Miami revisits the Astros offer now? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2018 20:16:33 GMT -6
We would all pass out if Luhnow signed Harper and traded for Realmuto.......still has to address the pitching no matter what else is done.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2018 20:20:24 GMT -6
We would all pass out if Luhnow signed Harper and traded for Realmuto.......still has to address the pitching no matter what else is done. Any guesses pitching wise what luhnow will do? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2018 20:20:30 GMT -6
The more I think about how much the Astros like Brantley and how injury prone he’s been, the more I feel like he’s a DH candidate for them.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2018 20:21:38 GMT -6
We would all pass out if Luhnow signed Harper and traded for Realmuto.......still has to address the pitching no matter what else is done. Any guesses pitching wise what luhnow will do? I think Harper might actually become an Astro (if not, then Brantley), and I also think Tucker will be traded. Whether that will be for pitching or Realmuto is up for debate. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 20:24:54 GMT -6
Any guesses pitching wise what luhnow will do? I think Harper might actually become an Astro (if not, then Brantley), and I also think Tucker will be traded. I would have never even considered Harper as an Astros, but I'm starting think it is a possibility. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 11, 2018 20:37:49 GMT -6
I think Crane and company have a flair for the OMG I did not see that coming.
Like someone has said before
IF AND I SAY IF they sign Harper trade for Realmuto. That would shake the SHIT out of the MLB.
That's not counting on what else they can do. Maybe Happ or Morton
Or another pitcher we havent talked about
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2018 23:21:12 GMT -6
We would all pass out if Luhnow signed Harper and traded for Realmuto.......still has to address the pitching no matter what else is done. Any guesses pitching wise what luhnow will do? Since I keep seeing other teams are supposedly interested in Morton, I have to think his shoulder may be healthy. If the shoulder is healthy, Luhnow needs to get him signed. I really don't think he goes after a guy like Syndergaard. I think a deal with the Dbacks for Greinke could still be in the works,but, who knows what Luhnow will do. Nobody will know until something is final. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2018 23:22:48 GMT -6
I think Crane and company have a flair for the OMG I did not see that coming. Like someone has said before IF AND I SAY IF they sign Harper trade for Realmuto. That would shake the SHIT out of the MLB. That's not counting on what else they can do. Maybe Happ or Morton Or another pitcher we havent talked about If they keep dragging around, some other team will get Morton. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 11, 2018 23:30:47 GMT -6
Any guesses pitching wise what luhnow will do? I think Harper might actually become an Astro (if not, then Brantley), and I also think Tucker will be traded. Whether that will be for pitching or Realmuto is up for debate. I am a little concerned over what giving Harper the money it will take to sign him would do to team morale........will we have the money to extend Verlander and Cole? Will we be able to afford Springer, Correa, and Bregman? The fact that Crane shows he will spend the money to win can influence FA to sign with us and encourage our players to sign extensions. Revenue from ticket and merchandise sales continue to increase and that should help the money needed to be available. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2018 23:50:29 GMT -6
I think Harper might actually become an Astro (if not, then Brantley), and I also think Tucker will be traded. Whether that will be for pitching or Realmuto is up for debate. I am a little concerned over what giving Harper the money it will take to sign him would do to team morale........will we have the money to extend Verlander and Cole? Will we be able to afford Springer, Correa, and Bregman? The fact that Crane shows he will spend the money to win can influence FA to sign with us and encourage our players to sign extensions. Revenue from ticket and merchandise sales continue to increase and that should help the money needed to be available. It’s not a slam dunk acquisition for sure. Signing Harper would get the clock ticking for others here. |
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