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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 14, 2018 19:26:34 GMT -6
Man, I don’t even know anymore. All I know is that plenty of people have had bad times on the team, but Gattis is beloved more because he has a cool beard and is called “El Oso Blanco”. He comes through sometimes and had probably his best stretch last season, but ultimately he is an average hitter who’s propped up by the team and fans as some white righthanded David Ortiz. Don't forget the part where he was a drunk dope head janitor. I admire anyone who turns his life around the way Gattis did. Going from being homeless man to a major league baseball player doesn't happen every day. I just we he was a more consistent hitter because I think he is one of the good guys and well-liked on the Astros. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 20:07:01 GMT -6
Son, please. You hated on Gattis more than any fan has ever hated on any player. Do a survey, on poster to player hate. 1. Sherwin for Gattis 2. Bortaz for Marisnick 3. Corch for Marwin 4. InLuhnowWeTrust for Will Harris. Sorry but not sorry. I just don't want to see him pitch for us anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:43:17 GMT -6
Indians deal Yonder Alonso to the White Sox..
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 14, 2018 21:43:44 GMT -6
Yonder Alonso to the White Sox could mean Manny Machado to the White Sox
Confirmed Alonso to White sox
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 14, 2018 21:46:15 GMT -6
Sherwin hates Harris more than Gattis Man, I don’t even know anymore. All I know is that plenty of people have had bad times on the team, but Gattis is beloved more because he has a cool beard and is called “El Oso Blanco”. He comes through sometimes and had probably his best stretch last season, but ultimately he is an average hitter who’s propped up by the team and fans as some white righthanded David Ortiz. I couldn't stand Sipp, and I am glad he is gone... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 14, 2018 21:47:39 GMT -6
Do a survey, on poster to player hate. 1. Sherwin for Gattis 2. Bortaz for Marisnick 3. Corch for Marwin 4. InLuhnowWeTrust for Will Harris. Sorry but not sorry. I just don't want to see him pitch for us anymore. 5. thomasj13 for Sipp 6. Everyone except Saint for Giles |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 14, 2018 21:49:14 GMT -6
Keuchal is me. Hated watching him pitch so boring and always had to try and comeback from a 3-0 deffacet
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 14, 2018 21:53:58 GMT -6
Keuchal is me. Hated watching him pitch so boring and always had to try and comeback from a 3-0 deffacet Deffacet? Deffacet.....deffacet... Can you give me the definition? Deffacet....deffacet... Can you give me the country of origin? Deffacet....deffacet.... Can you say it in a sentence? |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 14, 2018 22:04:49 GMT -6
If any truth to that, there's one more we can cross off the list.
I'd say 1B is capably handled for the Astros right now. It's the OF and SP that needs most attention.
Got to think that JD Davis figures it out this year. By September, Davis was actually hitting OK in games that he started and stayed in for the whole game. He did poorly off the bench and when he would be pulled halfway through the game.
Somewhere in the mix of Davis-Gurriel-White, 1B should be in decent hands this year.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 14, 2018 22:27:13 GMT -6
Man, I don’t even know anymore. All I know is that plenty of people have had bad times on the team, but Gattis is beloved more because he has a cool beard and is called “El Oso Blanco”. He comes through sometimes and had probably his best stretch last season, but ultimately he is an average hitter who’s propped up by the team and fans as some white righthanded David Ortiz. Don't forget the part where he was a drunk dope head janitor. That automatically adds 25 points to his batting average. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 14, 2018 22:29:16 GMT -6
4. InLuhnowWeTrust for Will Harris. Sorry but not sorry. I just don't want to see him pitch for us anymore. 5. thomasj13 for Sipp 6. Everyone except Saint for Giles Saint and Marwin/Marisnick as starters. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 14, 2018 22:34:34 GMT -6
Don't forget the part where he was a drunk dope head janitor. I admire anyone who turns his life around the way Gattis did. Going from being homeless man to a major league baseball player doesn't happen every day. I just we he was a more consistent hitter because I think he is one of the good guys and well-liked on the Astros. I wonder if he’d have the same kind of love if he had a more normal background. Just because a guy used to be homeless doesn’t mean he should’ve had a roster spot over a guy like White. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 14, 2018 22:35:34 GMT -6
If any truth to that, there's one more we can cross off the list. I'd say 1B is capably handled for the Astros right now. It's the OF and SP that needs most attention. Got to think that JD Davis figures it out this year. By September, Davis was actually hitting OK in games that he started and stayed in for the whole game. He did poorly off the bench and when he would be pulled halfway through the game. Somewhere in the mix of Davis-Gurriel-White, 1B should be in decent hands this year. Luhnow should stop getting so excited in his pants over Abreu. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 14, 2018 22:51:44 GMT -6
Man, I don’t even know anymore. All I know is that plenty of people have had bad times on the team, but Gattis is beloved more because he has a cool beard and is called “El Oso Blanco”. He comes through sometimes and had probably his best stretch last season, but ultimately he is an average hitter who’s propped up by the team and fans as some white righthanded David Ortiz. I couldn't stand Sipp, and I am glad he is gone... I second that. I hated that little skip he did after delivering the pitch. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 14, 2018 22:52:45 GMT -6
Keuchal is me. Hated watching him pitch so boring and always had to try and comeback from a 3-0 deffacet that is why I say good riddance to keuchel. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 14, 2018 22:54:58 GMT -6
If any truth to that, there's one more we can cross off the list. I'd say 1B is capably handled for the Astros right now. It's the OF and SP that needs most attention. Got to think that JD Davis figures it out this year. By September, Davis was actually hitting OK in games that he started and stayed in for the whole game. He did poorly off the bench and when he would be pulled halfway through the game. Somewhere in the mix of Davis-Gurriel-White, 1B should be in decent hands this year. Davis is a dud and so is AJ Reed. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 14, 2018 22:57:00 GMT -6
We can respect Gattis for his personal comeback in life, and appreciate his contributions to the Astros, while also wishing him well on a future with some other team(s).
I personally think his mystique would sell well with the Japanese clubs. He'd have a blast over there.
Feed him right, and he could transition into the sumo scene once he gets tired of baseball.
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 14, 2018 23:06:48 GMT -6
One thing to keep in mind about Davis is that he does well against groundball pitchers (.870 OPS in the majors), whereas with White it's the opposite (he does well mainly against flyball pitchers. .833 in the majors). So a future White/Davis platoon at 1B based on opposing pitching style is a possibility, and would be uber cheap for the club. I think it's feasible for those guys to put up a combined .825 OPS, which would be just fine for the 1B position. Maybe you get lucky and they bump it up to .850.
Davis has done fine at Fresno when he starts on a daily basis. If he has another good ST, it's going to make Hinch give serious consideration to putting him on the OD roster. Otherwise I still like him as organizational depth.
Reed has been a true dud -- can't seem to hit even AAA pitching now, and didn't seem to entirely show up even for spring training last year. Maybe he has a come-to-Jesus moment this offseason and becomes the player he ought to be. Would be a tremendous value to the club if he does. Somehow, Reed strikes me as being not so much of an idiot as Singleton was.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 14, 2018 23:18:17 GMT -6
There will be no Abreu trade White Sox say absolutely in no way fashion or form will he be traded
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Post by marshall on Dec 15, 2018 0:18:34 GMT -6
I wonder what type of deal Markakis is looking for... He'd be a solid LF veteran for a 1-2 year deal if he's reasonable. I know he cooled off a lot after July but he has always been a guy to maintain a steady AVG and OBP even when the power wasn't always there. I also still think Lucas Duda would be an easy cheap DH upgrade. I know he had a down year last season on a demotivating KC team, but in the 3 seasons he has had 500+/- plate appearances he has averaged 29 HR 76 RBI .829 OPS (.341 OBP) 128 OPS+ (And once he got traded to ATL last year he promptly went back up to an .864 OPS in a limited role.) He has torn up righties in his career and White has torn up lefties. Makes for a very smooth and cost effective DH tandem, plus both can cover 1B and Duda has played LF, if necessary. Both of those guys would keep us from any long-term pricey contracts or holding up prospects that are ready to go, but they give us depth and proven production at cost-effective rates. These are the type of players that intrigue me. The ones who improve the team without mortgaging the future. It's like the difference between shopping at Sax or the Walmart clearance rack. you can find stuff you would never wear at Sax for big money and stuff you would wear out at Walmart for $5.
Which one adds value in both the near term and keeps you from being broke afterwards? I like the concept of maximizing player effectiveness with a lefty/righty DH platoon. Though I make the same cautionary statement here as I do with pitching. It's not which side you throw or bat from, it's how effective you are in those situations.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 15, 2018 0:21:48 GMT -6
Keuchal is me. Hated watching him pitch so boring and always had to try and comeback from a 3-0 deffacet that is why I say good riddance to keuchel. Because of the deffacet? |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 15, 2018 0:26:34 GMT -6
Whit Merrifield could be one of those high-value players who comes at a reasonable cost. Still 4 years to go on his contract before he's FA.
A legit stolen base threat who doesn't strike out too much, and probably good for 115 OPS+. Basically an upgrade over Tony Kemp.
My guess is the Royals mostly want pitching in return. They see the 2021 season as their next big chance to contend, so maybe Bukauskas and Kemp get the job done.
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Post by marshall on Dec 15, 2018 0:28:08 GMT -6
4. InLuhnowWeTrust for Will Harris. Sorry but not sorry. I just don't want to see him pitch for us anymore. 5. thomasj13 for Sipp 6. Everyone except Saint for Giles You may not remember and he's not a player, but I had no love loss when Ed Wade moved on. I always felt he was more worried about his Philadelphia Story than he was his Astros duty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 1:27:36 GMT -6
4. InLuhnowWeTrust for Will Harris. Sorry but not sorry. I just don't want to see him pitch for us anymore. 6. Everyone except Saint for Giles That's pretty kind. I thought my Giles Hate last summer was pretty brutal. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 15, 2018 7:56:14 GMT -6
6. Everyone except Saint for Giles That's pretty kind. I thought my Giles Hate last summer was pretty brutal. I shall giveth you the hate for Giles. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 15, 2018 8:54:29 GMT -6
That's pretty kind. I thought my Giles Hate last summer was pretty brutal. I shall giveth you the hate for Giles. Giles sucks. He was a little whineass to Hinch when all the guy did was show faith in him. This team doesn’t need ingrates and especially ones who show up their manager in public the way he did. As much as I disliked Gattis, that was only in how he played. I didn’t personally dislike him the way I did Giles. |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 15, 2018 8:56:31 GMT -6
Luhnow is looking to add another bat and a SP. Looking at the players we have now, I’m wondering who gets bumped off the 25-man roster to make room for the bat we add. The team usually carries 13 pitchers and 12 position players. With all the off days in April we may carry 12 pitchers for the first month, but by the end of April the roster will likely consist of 12 position players and 13 pitchers. Luhnow has indicated that Tucker will get his shot to be a regular in the outfield. That said, barring injuries these guys are going to be on the active roster:
2 Catchers (Chirinos and Stassi or a new guy we trade for plus Chirinos or Stassi)
Yuli
Altuve
Correa
Bregman
Tucker
Springer
Reddick
The bat that Luhnow adds before opening day
That’s 10 position players. Kemp is out of options. White is out of options. Marisnick has 1 option remaining. Diaz has 1 option remaining. So who gets the final 2 position player roster spots? If Luhnow does; in fact, add a bat, I’m thinking there is a good chance that we could see 2 of the Kemp, White, Marisnick trio traded before opening day.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 15, 2018 8:59:09 GMT -6
that is why I say good riddance to keuchel. Because of the deffacet? and the defecate. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 15, 2018 8:59:20 GMT -6
Ramos, Brantley and Cruz. I would think are signing with the Astros if they give up there pursuit of Harper.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 15, 2018 8:59:59 GMT -6
Luhnow is looking to add another bat and a SP. Looking at the players we have now, I’m wondering who gets bumped off the 25-man roster to make room for the bat we add. The team usually carries 13 pitchers and 12 position players. With all the off days in April we may carry 12 pitchers for the first month, but by the end of April the roster will likely consist of 12 position players and 13 pitchers. Luhnow has indicated that Tucker will get his shot to be a regular in the outfield. That said, barring injuries these guys are going to be on the active roster: 2 Catchers (Chirinos and Stassi or a new guy we trade for plus Chirinos or Stassi) Yuli Altuve Correa Bregman Tucker Springer Reddick The bat that Luhnow adds before opening day That’s 10 position players. Kemp is out of options. White is out of options. Marisnick has 1 option remaining. Diaz has 1 option remaining. So who gets the final 2 position player roster spots? If Luhnow does; in fact, add a bat, I’m thinking there is a good chance that we could see 2 of the Kemp, White, Marisnick trio traded before opening day. Kemp is one of those rare players who I really like and also wouldn’t mind seeing traded. A real career for him doesn’t exist here, and he deserves the best elsewhere. |
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