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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 16, 2018 1:37:41 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 16, 2018 5:36:27 GMT -6
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 7:35:33 GMT -6
By the way, friends, my time available for forums might be drastically reduced in the near future. Tonight, I completed orientation for Western Governors University, and on January 1 I will begin working on a masters degree in nursing with a healthcare management/leadership focus (followed by an MBA, if I don't die). I'll also be working full time (I'm Director of a large department within my hospital - managing about 18 RNs and MDs) while doing school online, plus I'm old and already tired. So, this might be crazy for me to do this now, but hey...here we go. Good luck it's a long road but you will get there |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 7:38:46 GMT -6
Rosenthal believes the Astros are close to deals as we speak.
He also thinks Reddick will be traded.
I wonder who would bit on that?
With out taking money back?
Could Reddick and J.B. be traded as a salary dump?
Could the Astros really sign Cruz for full time DH part time LF or 1B?
Could Brantley be signed?
What about Ramos?
Can the Astros trade for Micheal Fulmer and Nicholas Castellanos?
What about a trade fir Jon Gray?
All these need to be answered, all of the above have had inquiries by the Astros.
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2018 8:02:51 GMT -6
Shooting for the stars on Grienke or Kluber MICHEAL FULMER JON GRAY Think along those lines. They don't wanna give up a significant prospect haul they do not need to give up a significant prospect haul to get Grienke. Kluber I think is now off the board. Fulmer though is easy to fix so getting him would be worth a few prospects. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2018 8:06:15 GMT -6
Nick Williams wouldn't be an upgrade over Reddick. The Astros would just be stuck with a mediocre RF through 2023. Even in the minors, Williams never hit terribly well. I get the idea of unloading an expensive contract, but now isn't the time to accept poorer offense in order to save some cash. The time for a tear-down and rebuild will eventually come, but it isn't this year. It does seem the team is in a hurry to get rid of Bukauskas. I wonder if they suspect something, like him needing TJ soon or maybe a PEDS issue. He does seem to have some injury issues and that may turn him into a bullpen arm. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2018 8:15:37 GMT -6
Rosenthal believes the Astros are close to deals as we speak. He also thinks Reddick will be traded. I wonder who would bit on that? With out taking money back? Could Reddick and J.B. be traded as a salary dump? Could the Astros really sign Cruz for full time DH part time LF or 1B? Could Brantley be signed? What about Ramos? Can the Astros trade for Micheal Fulmer and Nicholas Castellanos? What about a trade fir Jon Gray? All these need to be answered, all of the above have had inquiries by the Astros. It has occurred to me that Luhnow may not want to give up prospects given the rapid rise to our payroll and the looming increases to our core line up. So with that as a given I wonder how good a team he can build while only focusing on free agents or guys like Kemp, White, Reed, Davis, Martes, and Marisnick, and Reddick as trade pieces. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2018 8:20:32 GMT -6
Rosenthal believes the Astros are close to deals as we speak. He also thinks Reddick will be traded. I wonder who would bit on that? With out taking money back? Could Reddick and J.B. be traded as a salary dump? Could the Astros really sign Cruz for full time DH part time LF or 1B? Could Brantley be signed? What about Ramos? Can the Astros trade for Micheal Fulmer and Nicholas Castellanos? What about a trade fir Jon Gray? All these need to be answered, all of the above have had inquiries by the Astros. It has occurred to me that Luhnow may not want to give up prospects given the rapid rise to our payroll and the looming increases to our core line up. So with that as a given I wonder how good a team he can build while only focusing on free agents or guys like Kemp, White, Reed, Davis, Martes, and Marisnick, and Reddick as trade pieces. I would think Luhnow is looking for 2 year deals. Basically gap fillers, waiting to see what he needs to do based on whether top prospects can transend their talent into the majors. Still think it is paramount to extend both Verlander and Cole. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2018 8:42:18 GMT -6
It has occurred to me that Luhnow may not want to give up prospects given the rapid rise to our payroll and the looming increases to our core line up. So with that as a given I wonder how good a team he can build while only focusing on free agents or guys like Kemp, White, Reed, Davis, Martes, and Marisnick, and Reddick as trade pieces. I would think Luhnow is looking for 2 year deals. Basically gap fillers, waiting to see what he needs to do based on whether top prospects can transend their talent into the majors. Still think it is paramount to extend both Verlander and Cole. well I agree extending Verlander and Cole is critical but I just do not think that Cole will go along and that we stand a much better chance at extending Verlander. Long term getting a veteran like Grienke to keep the heat off of Whitley, James, ect while they mature will be critical to our long term success and remaining competitive well into the 2020's. So looking at our payroll right now it is about 140 million, so add Grienke, now it is 172 million, take away Reddick and it is 159, add Cruz at 12 and we are up to 171, add Brantley and we are at 186, add Ramos and we are at 198, and then we add another WS title. It is so easy on paper isn't it. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 8:44:33 GMT -6
It has occurred to me that Luhnow may not want to give up prospects given the rapid rise to our payroll and the looming increases to our core line up. So with that as a given I wonder how good a team he can build while only focusing on free agents or guys like Kemp, White, Reed, Davis, Martes, and Marisnick, and Reddick as trade pieces. I would think Luhnow is looking for 2 year deals. Basically gap fillers, waiting to see what he needs to do based on whether top prospects can transend their talent into the majors. Still think it is paramount to extend both Verlander and Cole. It just seems Lunhow and Crane dont want yo offer big money for Age. They want production. They wanted to keep Morton but no way they wanted to offer the 15m. Thought he was all about staying close to home??? It was all about the money and you could tell it. That's the thing with Verlander and Cole. Will Verlander ask for 25m plus? That's not worth it for his age. You gotta protect yourself with that kinda money on the table. I dont think the Astros wanna do stuff like this. This gos inline with Zach Grienke. I just dont see it with him. No way they take that on. Unless they pay that salary way down and we give up better prospects. Think about it. Guys. I get the want Brantley but do you see the reason why? Versatile is 1 but have you noticed threw his career he doeant strike out much eaither always finds away to get on base |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 8:46:18 GMT -6
I would think Luhnow is looking for 2 year deals. Basically gap fillers, waiting to see what he needs to do based on whether top prospects can transend their talent into the majors. Still think it is paramount to extend both Verlander and Cole. well I agree extending Verlander and Cole is critical but I just do not think that Cole will go along and that we stand a much better chance at extending Verlander. Long term getting a veteran like Grienke to keep the heat off of Whitley, James, ect while they mature will be critical to our long term success and remaining competitive well into the 2020's. So looking at our payroll right now it is about 140 million, so add Grienke, now it is 172 million, take away Reddick and it is 159, add Cruz at 12 and we are up to 171, add Brantley and we are at 186, add Ramos and we are at 198, and then we add another WS title. It is so easy on paper isn't it. Or move Reddick sign Beantley trade for Castellanos and Fulmer save some cash. Sign Ramos Save lists of money |
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2018 8:48:46 GMT -6
By the way, friends, my time available for forums might be drastically reduced in the near future. Tonight, I completed orientation for Western Governors University, and on January 1 I will begin working on a masters degree in nursing with a healthcare management/leadership focus (followed by an MBA, if I don't die). I'll also be working full time (I'm Director of a large department within my hospital - managing about 18 RNs and MDs) while doing school online, plus I'm old and already tired. So, this might be crazy for me to do this now, but hey...here we go. For what it is worth some advise from an old dude who has done done it, go for the gusto my friend. Just do not over do it. If you can get 7-8 hours of sleep, continue to eat correctly, exercise regularly, and not wake up with night sweats, then drive on, a social life can wait until the candle is done burning from both ends. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 16, 2018 8:52:49 GMT -6
I would think Luhnow is looking for 2 year deals. Basically gap fillers, waiting to see what he needs to do based on whether top prospects can transend their talent into the majors. Still think it is paramount to extend both Verlander and Cole. It just seems Lunhow and Crane dont want yo offer big money for Age. They want production. They wanted to keep Morton but no way they wanted to offer the 15m. Thought he was all about staying close to home??? It was all about the money and you could tell it. That's the thing with Verlander and Cole. Will Verlander ask for 25m plus? That's not worth it for his age. You gotta protect yourself with that kinda money on the table. I dont think the Astros wanna do stuff like this. This gos inline with Zach Grienke. I just dont see it with him. No way they take that on. Unless they pay that salary way down and we give up better prospects. Think about it. Guys. I get the want Brantley but do you see the reason why? Versatile is 1 but have you noticed threw his career he doeant strike out much eaither always finds away to get on base Brantley is also a left handed hitter with good speed. His time to 1B on a grounder can probably help him in the GIDP department. If you took his injury history out of the equation, he’d have been signed to a lucrative deal already. Now is the time to buy as low as you can with him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 16, 2018 8:54:15 GMT -6
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 8:54:49 GMT -6
You could see a line up of
1. SPRINGER. CF/LF/RF/DH
2. ALTUVE. 2B/DH
3. BREGMAN. 3B/SS/DH
4. CASTELLANOS DH/LF/RF
5. BRANTLEY. LF/RF/1B/DH
6. CORREA. SS/DH/DL
7. RAMOS. C/DH
8. WHITE. 1B/DH
9. TUCKER. RF/LF/DH
Bench
Diaz. SS/2B/3B/1B/LF/RF/DH
YULI. 1B/3B/SS/2B/DH
KEMP. LF/RF/DH
CHIRINOS. C/DH
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2018 8:54:53 GMT -6
well I agree extending Verlander and Cole is critical but I just do not think that Cole will go along and that we stand a much better chance at extending Verlander. Long term getting a veteran like Grienke to keep the heat off of Whitley, James, ect while they mature will be critical to our long term success and remaining competitive well into the 2020's. So looking at our payroll right now it is about 140 million, so add Grienke, now it is 172 million, take away Reddick and it is 159, add Cruz at 12 and we are up to 171, add Brantley and we are at 186, add Ramos and we are at 198, and then we add another WS title. It is so easy on paper isn't it. Or move Reddick sign Beantley trade for Castellanos and Fulmer save some cash. Sign Ramos Save lists of money You are not going to get Castellanos and Fulmer without giving up 3-4 in your top 10. Getting Grienke would just cost money and guys like Reddick, Kemp, Marisnick, (all of whom would be starters for Arizona), and a 10-20 level pitching prospect. Oh and by the way adding another WS title would increase the team valuation another couple 100 million. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 9:00:32 GMT -6
Or move Reddick sign Beantley trade for Castellanos and Fulmer save some cash. Sign Ramos Save lists of money You are not going to get Castellanos and Fulmer without giving up 3-4 in your top 10. Getting Grienke would just cost money and guys like Reddick, Kemp, Marisnick, (all of whom would be starters for Arizona), and a 10-20 level pitching prospect. Oh and by the way adding another WS title would increase the team valuation another couple 100 million. Who cares you may not sign Verlander or Cole then what? You would only have Grienke. With Whitley, James ,Framber Who knows about Lance. Think about it. You wanna resign Verlander and or Cole how when you get Grienke? An offer of J.B., Brian Abreu, Jairo Solis, Ronnie Dawson and Abraham Toro would get that deal done and over with |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2018 9:05:46 GMT -6
well I agree extending Verlander and Cole is critical but I just do not think that Cole will go along and that we stand a much better chance at extending Verlander. Long term getting a veteran like Grienke to keep the heat off of Whitley, James, ect while they mature will be critical to our long term success and remaining competitive well into the 2020's. So looking at our payroll right now it is about 140 million, so add Grienke, now it is 172 million, take away Reddick and it is 159, add Cruz at 12 and we are up to 171, add Brantley and we are at 186, add Ramos and we are at 198, and then we add another WS title. It is so easy on paper isn't it. Or move Reddick sign Beantley trade for Castellanos and Fulmer save some cash. Sign Ramos Save lists of money Verlander is worth around 25M a year. If he is producing and not showing any declination, then extend him to a 2 year deal at $25M a year, plus a third year $25M team option. Cole - 6 years, $160M. Then sign the next Morton for a 2 year deal with 3rd option...Another $8M talented pitcher who just needs a COS/better coaching. Then the Astros are set in their rotation for at least through 2021...which is about the window when Springer and Correa are under team control. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2018 9:23:48 GMT -6
You could see a line up of 1. SPRINGER. CF/LF/RF/DH 2. ALTUVE. 2B/DH 3. BREGMAN. 3B/SS/DH 4. CASTELLANOS DH/LF/RF 5. BRANTLEY. LF/RF/1B/DH 6. CORREA. SS/DH/DL 7. RAMOS. C/DH 8. WHITE. 1B/DH 9. TUCKER. RF/LF/DH Bench Diaz. SS/2B/3B/1B/LF/RF/DH YULI. 1B/3B/SS/2B/DH KEMP. LF/RF/DH CHIRINOS. C/DH Yuli won't be on the bench except on days he gets a rest. White and Kemp are guys who could be tradedl. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 10:20:48 GMT -6
By the way, friends, my time available for forums might be drastically reduced in the near future. Tonight, I completed orientation for Western Governors University, and on January 1 I will begin working on a masters degree in nursing with a healthcare management/leadership focus (followed by an MBA, if I don't die). I'll also be working full time (I'm Director of a large department within my hospital - managing about 18 RNs and MDs) while doing school online, plus I'm old and already tired. So, this might be crazy for me to do this now, but hey...here we go. Good Luck. Graduate School is a breeze if it builds upon work or educational background. It's the poor folks who are making career right turns who are the ones who struggle. Got my M.S. (during nights after work) over 35 years ago, and it was a good decision as far as my career. Never regretted it. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 10:37:10 GMT -6
You could see a line up of 1. SPRINGER. CF/LF/RF/DH 2. ALTUVE. 2B/DH 3. BREGMAN. 3B/SS/DH 4. CASTELLANOS DH/LF/RF 5. BRANTLEY. LF/RF/1B/DH 6. CORREA. SS/DH/DL 7. RAMOS. C/DH 8. WHITE. 1B/DH 9. TUCKER. RF/LF/DH Bench Diaz. SS/2B/3B/1B/LF/RF/DH YULI. 1B/3B/SS/2B/DH KEMP. LF/RF/DH CHIRINOS. C/DH Yuli won't be on the bench except on days he gets a rest. White and Kemp are guys who could be tradedl. I wouldnt doubt it if Yuli was brought up in trade talks |
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2018 11:06:01 GMT -6
You are not going to get Castellanos and Fulmer without giving up 3-4 in your top 10. Getting Grienke would just cost money and guys like Reddick, Kemp, Marisnick, (all of whom would be starters for Arizona), and a 10-20 level pitching prospect. Oh and by the way adding another WS title would increase the team valuation another couple 100 million. Who cares you may not sign Verlander or Cole then what? You would only have Grienke. With Whitley, James ,Framber Who knows about Lance. Think about it. You wanna resign Verlander and or Cole how when you get Grienke? An offer of J.B., Brian Abreu, Jairo Solis, Ronnie Dawson and Abraham Toro would get that deal done and over with And another off season with more free agents, and a determination if either Verlander or Cole is extended, and another draft and another year for prospects to step up and become trade bait. We need to add another front end guy this off season and another next off season, that really isn't so hard to figure out is it. To think that we are going to get Cole and Verlander is at best misguided. They have to want to sign as well as us wanting them too, it would be a fools errand to think that both of them would. So how do you know that trading Bukuaskus, Abreu, Solis, Dawson, and Toro would net you Castellanos and Fulmer. That actually seems a little steep to me. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 16, 2018 11:10:45 GMT -6
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 11:27:16 GMT -6
Who cares you may not sign Verlander or Cole then what? You would only have Grienke. With Whitley, James ,Framber Who knows about Lance. Think about it. You wanna resign Verlander and or Cole how when you get Grienke? An offer of J.B., Brian Abreu, Jairo Solis, Ronnie Dawson and Abraham Toro would get that deal done and over with And another off season with more free agents, and a determination if either Verlander or Cole is extended, and another draft and another year for prospects to step up and become trade bait. We need to add another front end guy this off season and another next off season, that really isn't so hard to figure out is it. To think that we are going to get Cole and Verlander is at best misguided. They have to want to sign as well as us wanting them too, it would be a fools errand to think that both of them would. So how do you know that trading Bukuaskus, Abreu, Solis, Dawson, and Toro would net you Castellanos and Fulmer. That actually seems a little steep to me. 1yr of Castellanos Fulmer has 3yrs of control J.B. Abreu and Solis should hold that down on Fulmer. I.E. Tigers where wanting Solis when we got Verlander. Toro and Dawson should be more then enough for Castellanos. Just an opinion |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 16, 2018 11:28:47 GMT -6
You dont wanna pay Grienke all that money and have no chance to sign back Cole. So you stay away from that.
You wanna make the Fulmer and Gray deals so you can have a 2020 starting rotation of
Cole
Fulmer
Gray
James
Whitley
McCullers and McHugh in the pen
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2018 11:36:30 GMT -6
Yuli won't be on the bench except on days he gets a rest. White and Kemp are guys who could be tradedl. I wouldnt doubt it if Yuli was brought up in trade talks A trade could happen involving Yuli, but, he won't sit the bench in Houston. |
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Post by marshall on Dec 16, 2018 12:29:33 GMT -6
By the way, friends, my time available for forums might be drastically reduced in the near future. Tonight, I completed orientation for Western Governors University, and on January 1 I will begin working on a masters degree in nursing with a healthcare management/leadership focus (followed by an MBA, if I don't die). I'll also be working full time (I'm Director of a large department within my hospital - managing about 18 RNs and MDs) while doing school online, plus I'm old and already tired. So, this might be crazy for me to do this now, but hey...here we go. Good luck on the attempt. I couldn't handle over 20 hours a day... |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 16, 2018 13:16:02 GMT -6
Outlook regarding Castellanos and Fulmer from a Tigers fan's perspective.
Nick will return far less in prospects than Michael. Nick will be a free agent in 2020 so a buyer will get just one year. Projected arb for 2019: $11.3 million. In a year where the Tigers are not expecting to be a contender by any stretch of the imagination, it makes sense to deal him now. He's 'athletic' in the sense that he has good footspeed, a good throwing arm, keeps himself in good physical condition, and is beginning to make serious improvements on the basepaths. To say he's mediocre on defense would be too generous. But he's very valuable at the plate.
The Tigers have more team control on Michael. He gets his first arb (as a super-2) this winter at a projected $3.0 million. With his earliest free agency being 2023, the Tigers are likely to consider keeping him if they think they'll be a competitor in 2021-2022. He had a rough year in 2018 including some injuries. But it's reasonable to expect him to bounce back well. Three mill is a cheap keep. Because of the question marks surrounding him. I don't see a team betting the farm on him right now. If he rocks the house in the first half of 2019, July might tell a different story.
In other news, your old friend Mike Fiers had a pretty good season with the Tigers and Athletics in 2018. He was non-tendered by the A's with a projected $9.7 expected through arbitration. I reckon he'll sign for far less after this winter's arbs are in the rearview mirror.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2018 13:49:35 GMT -6
By the way, friends, my time available for forums might be drastically reduced in the near future. Tonight, I completed orientation for Western Governors University, and on January 1 I will begin working on a masters degree in nursing with a healthcare management/leadership focus (followed by an MBA, if I don't die). I'll also be working full time (I'm Director of a large department within my hospital - managing about 18 RNs and MDs) while doing school online, plus I'm old and already tired. So, this might be crazy for me to do this now, but hey...here we go. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 16, 2018 14:31:50 GMT -6
By the way, friends, my time available for forums might be drastically reduced in the near future. Tonight, I completed orientation for Western Governors University, and on January 1 I will begin working on a masters degree in nursing with a healthcare management/leadership focus (followed by an MBA, if I don't die). I'll also be working full time (I'm Director of a large department within my hospital - managing about 18 RNs and MDs) while doing school online, plus I'm old and already tired. So, this might be crazy for me to do this now, but hey...here we go. Too much work. Not enough fun and family time. Good luck! |
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