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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 14, 2019 13:13:26 GMT -6
I thought you wanted to trade Tucker. I would to get a great longterm SP. Or shut down Closer to put next to Osuna. But if they are gonna keep him. Like they wanna do. He needs to be getting MLB abs as soon as possible I am ready to see him get the call. I have always liked Tucker but there isn't much room for him at the current time. I remember some guy that used to post on here that wanted us to trade Tucker for Realmuto.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 14, 2019 13:26:21 GMT -6
I would to get a great longterm SP. Or shut down Closer to put next to Osuna. But if they are gonna keep him. Like they wanna do. He needs to be getting MLB abs as soon as possible I am ready to see him get the call. I have always liked Tucker but there isn't much room for him at the current time. I remember some guy that used to post on here that wanted us to trade Tucker for Realmuto. Because Realmuto is good. We didnt know anything about Chorinos. Other then Altuves friend......... Then you have to look at Tucker his swing stance and bat presentation is unorthodox. That doesnt work well in baseball. So I hope he does ok, if not great but not putting all the eggs in the basket.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 14, 2019 13:33:48 GMT -6
I thought you wanted to trade Tucker. I would to get a great longterm SP. Or shut down Closer to put next to Osuna. But if they are gonna keep him. Like they wanna do. He needs to be getting MLB abs as soon as possible I wouldn’t trade Tucker for a closer. They have a shelf life similar to NFL runningbacks unless you get those anomalies like Kimbrel or Rivera.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 14, 2019 13:41:47 GMT -6
I would to get a great longterm SP. Or shut down Closer to put next to Osuna. But if they are gonna keep him. Like they wanna do. He needs to be getting MLB abs as soon as possible I am ready to see him get the call. I have always liked Tucker but there isn't much room for him at the current time. I remember some guy that used to post on here that wanted us to trade Tucker for Realmuto. voodoo begged for it to happen.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 14, 2019 13:44:48 GMT -6
I am ready to see him get the call. I have always liked Tucker but there isn't much room for him at the current time. I remember some guy that used to post on here that wanted us to trade Tucker for Realmuto. Because Realmuto is good. We didnt know anything about Chorinos. Other then Altuves friend......... Then you have to look at Tucker his swing stance and bat presentation is unorthodox. That doesnt work well in baseball. So I hope he does ok, if not great but not putting all the eggs in the basket. Jeff Bagwell had an unorthodox swing and it worked out ok. Sometimes as fans we get a little impatient with prospects. On the other hand we can somewhat over glorify a few.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 14, 2019 13:46:26 GMT -6
I am ready to see him get the call. I have always liked Tucker but there isn't much room for him at the current time. I remember some guy that used to post on here that wanted us to trade Tucker for Realmuto. Because Realmuto is good. We didnt know anything about Chorinos. Other then Altuves friend......... Then you have to look at Tucker his swing stance and bat presentation is unorthodox. That doesnt work well in baseball. So I hope he does ok, if not great but not putting all the eggs in the basket. Tucker got the nickname "Ted" from teammates because his swing reminded them of Ted Williams who had one of the best swings of any major leaguer who ever lived. I wouidn't call that unorthodox.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 14, 2019 13:48:05 GMT -6
Because Realmuto is good. We didnt know anything about Chorinos. Other then Altuves friend......... Then you have to look at Tucker his swing stance and bat presentation is unorthodox. That doesnt work well in baseball. So I hope he does ok, if not great but not putting all the eggs in the basket. Jeff Bagwell had an unorthodox swing and it worked out ok. Sometimes as fans we get a little impatient with prospects. On the other hand we can somewhat over glorify a few. Bagwell knew his swing was unorthodox and said more than once that young players should not try to copy it.
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Post by marshall on Jun 14, 2019 15:54:22 GMT -6
I have never said he is untouchable. I said he won't be released. If he is as bad as most of you think, who would trade for him? I am sure voodoo the idiot has a deal working right now. I don’t think he’ll ever be released because they love him. I think his defense is great but not elite to the point where he should be a starter. It’s fine for now because they’re so beset by injuries, but when Springer gets back, Marisnick should be a pinch runner/9th inning guy. I think that's exactly how they see him. The only things that could change things is if he's part of a trade or Straw's speed and instincts on the basepaths makes him a better choice to fill that role. But they would certainly like to get some value rather than release him. I think that's why White and Kemp are still here. But they'll have to make some hard decisions as our core get's healthy.
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Post by marshall on Jun 14, 2019 15:57:07 GMT -6
I would to get a great longterm SP. Or shut down Closer to put next to Osuna. But if they are gonna keep him. Like they wanna do. He needs to be getting MLB abs as soon as possible I am ready to see him get the call. I have always liked Tucker but there isn't much room for him at the current time. I remember some guy that used to post on here that wanted us to trade Tucker for Realmuto. I wanted Realmuto pretty bad, but not that bad. I think I would have offered Alvarez in a package at that time and I'm very glad we didn't now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 16:02:00 GMT -6
I don’t think he’ll ever be released because they love him. I think his defense is great but not elite to the point where he should be a starter. It’s fine for now because they’re so beset by injuries, but when Springer gets back, Marisnick should be a pinch runner/9th inning guy. I think that's exactly how they see him. The only things that could change things is if he's part of a trade or Straw's speed and instincts on the basepaths makes him a better choice to fill that role. But they would certainly like to get some value rather than release him. I think that's why White and Kemp are still here. But they'll have to make some hard decisions as our core get's healthy. I think Straw should be held for the reason that I think MLB will stupidly change the game rules to allow for designated runners in extra inning situations (Next 3 years or so?)
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 14, 2019 16:27:39 GMT -6
Honestly if Straw can show he can Field more and they let him get out there more. Maybe he can replace Marisnick.
Hate me all u want on that but. Cheaper is what i can say not as much power but speed to spare.
And by the way he was safe the other day
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 15, 2019 10:16:10 GMT -6
Ok I'm hoping nothing is wrong with Marisnick. But I'm also hoping Straw gets some starts out there in CF
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 15, 2019 10:32:04 GMT -6
What would you guys say Yuli Gurriels value is? What do you think you could get from him?
I think if there was a time that we could move him it would be now?
I think we could move him to open up some cash for next year.
But wait, I get he is versatile and we need this and that. But lets say he plays 1B. Altuve will be back soon. So Kemp, and I get it he has a weak arm. But Straw is also there aswell. So you have two guys who can rotate if Marisnick isnt hurt to bad.
But what would you say abouy Yuli to the Blue Jays for Aaron Sanchez?
Wait think about it. We could steal Sanchez away and let Strom work some magic with him and he could possibly bounce back. He looked bad yesterday i get it. But we could move the contract away and save some cash have Yordan play 1B and LF and possibly see Brantley playsome 1B?
Its just a thought guys idk if i would do it
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 15, 2019 10:39:08 GMT -6
What would you guys say Yuli Gurriels value is? What do you think you could get from him? I think if there was a time that we could move him it would be now? I think we could move him to open up some cash for next year. But wait, I get he is versatile and we need this and that. But lets say he plays 1B. Altuve will be back soon. So Kemp, and I get it he has a weak arm. But Straw is also there aswell. So you have two guys who can rotate if Marisnick isnt hurt to bad. But what would you say abouy Yuli to the Blue Jays for Aaron Sanchez? Wait think about it. We could steal Sanchez away and let Strom work some magic with him and he could possibly bounce back. He looked bad yesterday i get it. But we could move the contract away and save some cash have Yordan play 1B and LF and possibly see Brantley playsome 1B? Its just a thought guys idk if i would do it I think the Blue Jays would be interested more in prospects, than a player with one year control... even though he's a brother one of their current players
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 15, 2019 11:00:39 GMT -6
What would you guys say Yuli Gurriels value is? What do you think you could get from him? I think if there was a time that we could move him it would be now? I think we could move him to open up some cash for next year. But wait, I get he is versatile and we need this and that. But lets say he plays 1B. Altuve will be back soon. So Kemp, and I get it he has a weak arm. But Straw is also there aswell. So you have two guys who can rotate if Marisnick isnt hurt to bad. But what would you say abouy Yuli to the Blue Jays for Aaron Sanchez? Wait think about it. We could steal Sanchez away and let Strom work some magic with him and he could possibly bounce back. He looked bad yesterday i get it. But we could move the contract away and save some cash have Yordan play 1B and LF and possibly see Brantley playsome 1B? Its just a thought guys idk if i would do it Why would we trade good prospects for the clown we hammered last night?
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jun 15, 2019 11:11:27 GMT -6
Only one person here thinks Jake is untouchable. I have never said he is untouchable. I said he won't be released. If he is as bad as most of you think, who would trade for him? I am sure voodoo the idiot has a deal working right now. Who would trade for him? I think this winter, he could be traded and the Astros will could a partner. That's assuming he continues to hit.
With everyone healthy, the Astros outfield is overcrowded and that blocks emerging talent. But in 2021 the outfield implodes with FOUR outfielders hitting free agency, all at the same time. Josh Reddick, Michael Brantley, George Springer, and Jake Marisnick.
I can imagine Luhnow finding another team with a decent player, blocking emerging talent, who is also at a similar price point, who will have one year of control left, but who has an outfield spot they want to fill for the year. Could be an infielder, catcher, whatever. Could be a straight one-for-one swap. Just a question of finding the right fit.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 15, 2019 11:30:20 GMT -6
I have never said he is untouchable. I said he won't be released. If he is as bad as most of you think, who would trade for him? I am sure voodoo the idiot has a deal working right now. Who would trade for him? I think this winter, he could be traded and the Astros will could a partner. That's assuming he continues to hit.
With everyone healthy, the Astros outfield is overcrowded and that blocks emerging talent. But in 2021 the outfield implodes with FOUR outfielders hitting free agency, all at the same time. Josh Reddick, Michael Brantley, George Springer, and Jake Marisnick.
I can imagine Luhnow finding another team with a decent player, blocking emerging talent, who is also at a similar price point, who will have one year of control left, but who has an outfield spot they want to fill for the year. Could be an infielder, catcher, whatever. Could be a straight one-for-one swap. Just a question of finding the right fit.
We have quite a few outfielders who could be dealt for pitching or catching help at the deadline.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 15, 2019 11:30:47 GMT -6
Im thinking Aaron Sanchez needs a better coach. Thats the only reason i sayed his named. Yes he got hammered I get it. But he still is a young good pitcher. He just doesnt seem like something is clicking theres a hitch in his delivery.
But anyways. There was a report we are going to be scouting Marcus Stroman. Anyone heard anything about it
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 15, 2019 11:33:46 GMT -6
Who would trade for him? I think this winter, he could be traded and the Astros will could a partner. That's assuming he continues to hit.
With everyone healthy, the Astros outfield is overcrowded and that blocks emerging talent. But in 2021 the outfield implodes with FOUR outfielders hitting free agency, all at the same time. Josh Reddick, Michael Brantley, George Springer, and Jake Marisnick.
I can imagine Luhnow finding another team with a decent player, blocking emerging talent, who is also at a similar price point, who will have one year of control left, but who has an outfield spot they want to fill for the year. Could be an infielder, catcher, whatever. Could be a straight one-for-one swap. Just a question of finding the right fit.
We have quite a few outfielders who could be dealt for pitching or catching help at the deadline. Fisher could go. Seen a report we have to wait till July sometime to see Tucker come up. But ideally we should consider moving Yuli. To the Jays that wouldnt be a bad swap.they might jump at that idea of pairing him with his Brother? I think Kemp is fighting to be on This team. And everytime Yordan does what he does you can see White dropping lower and lower. His confidence is shot. He knows his time is done
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jun 15, 2019 11:58:11 GMT -6
Who would trade for him? I think this winter, he could be traded and the Astros will could a partner. That's assuming he continues to hit. With everyone healthy, the Astros outfield is overcrowded and that blocks emerging talent. But in 2021 the outfield implodes with FOUR outfielders hitting free agency, all at the same time. Josh Reddick, Michael Brantley, George Springer, and Jake Marisnick. I can imagine Luhnow finding another team with a decent player, blocking emerging talent, who is also at a similar price point, who will have one year of control left, but who has an outfield spot they want to fill for the year. Could be an infielder, catcher, whatever. Could be a straight one-for-one swap. Just a question of finding the right fit.
We have quite a few outfielders who could be dealt for pitching or catching help at the deadline. Deadline deals tend to be more focused on right-now talent going to contenders in exchange for future talent going to non-contenders. Personally, I don't see a pressing need for catching this season, but Chirinos is FA for 2020, so that's why I mentioned a catcher as a possible swap over the winter. Trading outfield prospects for pitching could be a bit short-sighted, if we're looking at 2021 and all the possible FA exits. Who would you trade right now for pitching?
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 15, 2019 12:07:15 GMT -6
Im thinking Aaron Sanchez needs a better coach. Thats the only reason i sayed his named. Yes he got hammered I get it. But he still is a young good pitcher. He just doesnt seem like something is clicking theres a hitch in his delivery. But anyways. There was a report we are going to be scouting Marcus Stroman. Anyone heard anything about it I guess Sanchez is your new boy toy. I don't like him on our roster.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 15, 2019 12:28:47 GMT -6
Im thinking Aaron Sanchez needs a better coach. Thats the only reason i sayed his named. Yes he got hammered I get it. But he still is a young good pitcher. He just doesnt seem like something is clicking theres a hitch in his delivery. But anyways. There was a report we are going to be scouting Marcus Stroman. Anyone heard anything about it I guess Sanchez is your new boy toy.don't like him on our roster. No but i believe we could ateal him for nothing. Pennies on the dollar shed some money. And maybe Strom could turn him around? Maybe not. But we could try and get someone who is young and rebuild him. Its happened before. Strom is a good coach. If anyone can do it he could. Im for Stroman. Perfect name. Wants to win and would thrive here But i would try and get Aaron Sanchez aswell and hope Strom could turn him around. Kinda like the newly DFAd Cody Allen
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jun 15, 2019 12:31:07 GMT -6
We have quite a few outfielders who could be dealt for pitching or catching help at the deadline. Deadline deals tend to be more focused on right-now talent going to contenders in exchange for future talent going to non-contenders. Personally, I don't see a pressing need for catching this season, but Chirinos is FA for 2020, so that's why I mentioned a catcher as a possible swap over the winter. Trading outfield prospects for pitching could be a bit short-sighted, if we're looking at 2021 and all the possible FA exits. Who would you trade right now for pitching?
Fisher would be the prime trade away target. Some team would love to have him on there roster. If your plan is to keep Springer Yordan left Tucker right. Let Reddick and Brantley walk or move Reddick in the Offseason. But we have alot of guys teuely blocked at the moment. Im sure we can find a Gerrit Cole deal out there. Wiyh Josh James as a headliner
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Post by Saint on Jun 15, 2019 13:08:49 GMT -6
Nobody wants Yuli.
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Post by talshill on Jun 15, 2019 13:31:29 GMT -6
Especially with him being 36 next year with declining numbers plus a (9?) million dollar salary.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 15, 2019 13:33:48 GMT -6
Poor Yuli. Once White is gone he will be the black sheep of the Astros. I feel sorry for the guy.
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Post by talshill on Jun 15, 2019 13:34:42 GMT -6
Im thinking Aaron Sanchez needs a better coach. Thats the only reason i sayed his named. Yes he got hammered I get it. But he still is a young good pitcher. He just doesnt seem like something is clicking theres a hitch in his delivery. But anyways. There was a report we are going to be scouting Marcus Stroman. Anyone heard anything about it I'm sure they "scout" dozens of players and certainly Stroman would be among them.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jun 15, 2019 13:54:55 GMT -6
Poor Yuli. Once White is gone he will be the black sheep of the Astros. I feel sorry for the guy. Maybe. But don't even try to shear his wool!
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Post by Saint on Jun 15, 2019 14:52:43 GMT -6
Poor Yuli. Once White is gone he will be the black sheep of the Astros. I feel sorry for the guy. From a performance per amount of salary standpoint, Yuli is less valuable than White this year (so far).
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 15, 2019 15:14:37 GMT -6
Poor Yuli. Once White is gone he will be the black sheep of the Astros. I feel sorry for the guy. From a performance per amount of salary standpoint, Yuli is less valuable than White this year (so far). Yuli, if I recall correctly, is pretty good in the playoffs.
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