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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2019 7:31:37 GMT -6
How bad can you suck today, offense? Make sure you f*ck over your pitcher with more ineptitude and poor and/or selfish decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 7:43:58 GMT -6
Wow, I thught I was pissed. Scorched earth on a GDT?
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2019 7:49:30 GMT -6
I'm still not over it. That was one of the most frustrating games I've seen from this team since they were good again.
I know it wasn't a great lineup, but we still had all-star caliber (if not better) hitters 1-5, and then an above average catcher (who had 4 hits) hitting 6th. That lineup should have been able to score 3 runs against the lowly Tigers.
Our 2-5 hitters went a combined 0-14. Unacceptable.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 22, 2019 8:17:54 GMT -6
Settle down, son.
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2019 9:00:26 GMT -6
NO¡!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 22, 2019 9:03:49 GMT -6
It's that time of the month for Toddie. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 9:05:50 GMT -6
Could you imagine this offense if the balls weren’t juiced? They're 5-for-24 with RISP so far this series.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 9:07:46 GMT -6
How bad can you suck today, offense? Make sure you f*ck over your pitcher with more ineptitude and poor and/or selfish decisions. Son, you’ve out-negatized me. That takes quite a bit. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2019 9:09:45 GMT -6
How bad can you suck today, offense? Make sure you f*ck over your pitcher with more ineptitude and poor and/or selfish decisions. Son, you’ve out-negatized me. That takes quite a bit. I'm sure it will pass eventually. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 9:09:45 GMT -6
To be fair to Todd, the loss last night was worse than the ones in Baltimore, Chicago, and Oakland.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:12:29 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:18:39 GMT -6
His father witheld food for losing a little league baseball game? No wonder this guy's mind is so f'ed. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 22, 2019 9:41:06 GMT -6
I'm still not over it. That was one of the most frustrating games I've seen from this team since they were good again. I know it wasn't a great lineup, but we still had all-star caliber (if not better) hitters 1-5, and then an above average catcher (who had 4 hits) hitting 6th. That lineup should have been able to score 3 runs against the lowly Tigers. Our 2-5 hitters went a combined 0-14. Unacceptable. If Chirinos went for that triple just to try to hit for the cycle, he needs his ass kicked. Altuve's blunder was just more of the crap that has become one of his trademarks and why he is a DUMBASS. |
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Post by sempersmom on Aug 22, 2019 9:44:15 GMT -6
You're wrong, again. I don't blame Altuve for going to third. He was being aggressive. Chirinos didn't have a chance to get a triple since his speed is not there. I don't blame either one for being aggressive. It just didn't work out this time.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 9:51:24 GMT -6
You're wrong, again. I don't blame Altuve for going to third. He was being aggressive. Chirinos didn't have a chance to get a triple since his speed is not there. I don't blame either one for being aggressive. It just didn't work out this time. If either guy were at second base instead of third base, what difference would it have made? |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 22, 2019 9:56:51 GMT -6
You're wrong, again. I don't blame Altuve for going to third. He was being aggressive. Chirinos didn't have a chance to get a triple since his speed is not there. I don't blame either one for being aggressive. It just didn't work out this time. If either guy were at second base instead of third base, what difference would it have made? To give it a spin on the difference, here are a few. www.answers.com/Q/How_many_ways_can_a_runner_score_from_third_base_with_less_than_2_outs |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 10:04:58 GMT -6
I agree that it’s easier to score from third base, but nearly half of those ways involve a mistake by the opposing team. Altuve has the speed to score from second with two outs easily. Reddick, pinch running for Chirinos, has the same. The old adage that you should never make the first or third outs at third base applies. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 22, 2019 10:14:19 GMT -6
I agree that it’s easier to score from third base, but nearly half of those ways involve a mistake by the opposing team. Altuve has the speed to score from second with two outs easily. Reddick, pinch running for Chirinos, has the same. The old adage that you should never make the first or third outs at third base applies. I just got finished watching the condensed game on MLB.TV, and of the plays between Jose and Robbie, my opinion, the latter was foolish pulling an ice wagon. It did take a perfect throw by the first baseman to nail Jose, not many first sackers make that throw. Let's say Jose trying to make a play pushed the pedal. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 10:20:24 GMT -6
I agree that it’s easier to score from third base, but nearly half of those ways involve a mistake by the opposing team. Altuve has the speed to score from second with two outs easily. Reddick, pinch running for Chirinos, has the same. The old adage that you should never make the first or third outs at third base applies. I just got finished watching the condensed game on MLB.TV, and of the plays between Jose and Robbie, my opinion, the latter was foolish pulling an ice wagon. It did take a perfect throw by the first baseman to nail Jose, not many first sackers make that throw. Let's say Jose trying to make a play pushed the pedal. I agree that Chirinos’s was worse, but they were both bad. If a run scored on either of those plays (meaning there would’ve been just one out), it would’ve been okay. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 22, 2019 10:25:19 GMT -6
I just got finished watching the condensed game on MLB.TV, and of the plays between Jose and Robbie, my opinion, the latter was foolish pulling an ice wagon. It did take a perfect throw by the first baseman to nail Jose, not many first sackers make that throw. Let's say Jose trying to make a play pushed the pedal. I agree that Chirinos’s was worse, but they were both bad. If a run scored on either of those plays (meaning there would’ve been just one out), it would’ve been okay. I didn't see or read if any comments that were made by Hinch, but I'm sure he would not call him out for hustle. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 10:27:49 GMT -6
I agree that Chirinos’s was worse, but they were both bad. If a run scored on either of those plays (meaning there would’ve been just one out), it would’ve been okay. I didn't see or read if any comments that were made by Hinch, but I'm sure he would not call him out for hustle. Hinch was in a somber mood understandably. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 22, 2019 10:30:45 GMT -6
I didn't see or read if any comments that were made by Hinch, but I'm sure he would not call him out for hustle. Hinch was in a somber mood understandably. I could see that especially over the last few weeks losing games that should have been in the win column, when battling for top record. |
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Post by bannedfan on Aug 22, 2019 10:31:06 GMT -6
You should learn from mistakes, but I’m not sure Jose does.
Best to forget about that disaster of a game. I’m just glad the Astros have won a WS. Not sure this team is capable of it. Guess we’ll find out.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 22, 2019 10:33:56 GMT -6
You should learn from mistakes, but I’m not sure Jose does. Best to forget about that disaster of a game. I’m just glad the Astros have won a WS. Not sure this team is capable of it. Guess we’ll find out. If they keep playing down to their opponents’ level, they won’t. They’re an antsy group of hitters. Like bearbryant said, they cannot seem to master the offspeed. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2019 10:48:26 GMT -6
I was frustrated with Altuve, but I think he was just desperate to try and get something started for JV. It was obvious he was pressing a lot (look at how excited he was just to work a walk that inning), and he had such a good jump on the groundball thanks to starting early that I'm sure he thought he could make it. If the throw was off or delayed even just a little, he would have made it.
Chirinos was obviously just going for the triple for the cycle. He was probably hoping the throw would be off or the ball would be bobbled just enough that he would make it. I don't think he was even thinking about the importance of his potential run.
At the end of the day though, the offense has no excuse for being so poor that either of those were game-changing plays. It was Chirinos and one oppo single by George as the only positive offensive moments. And Straw has to get back to working walks or beating out some bunts or something. I don't expect any power from him, but he needs to get on base.
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2019 10:55:15 GMT -6
We'll probably score 12 runs on 5 HRs tonight and everything will balance out. Still frustrating though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:03:37 GMT -6
We'll probably score 12 runs on 5 HRs tonight and everything will balance out. Still frustrating though. Or we'll get beat on an Astros pitcher no-hitter. |
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Post by sempersmom on Aug 22, 2019 11:08:24 GMT -6
I agree that Chirinos’s was worse, but they were both bad. If a run scored on either of those plays (meaning there would’ve been just one out), it would’ve been okay. I didn't see or read if any comments that were made by Hinch, but I'm sure he would not call him out for hustle. You can't reason with Sherwin. He likes to stay mad. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 22, 2019 11:12:53 GMT -6
You're wrong, again. I don't blame Altuve for going to third. He was being aggressive. Chirinos didn't have a chance to get a triple since his speed is not there. I don't blame either one for being aggressive. It just didn't work out this time. Sorry, mom......what Altuve did was just plain dumb baseball. He was already in scoring position at second base with Yordan coming up. To make a move like that, he violated a cardinal rule of baseball..........as did Chirinos....by making the final out of the inning at third base. Chirinos' dumb move was worse because it ended the game. Altuve made one of a long list of mental mistakes that causes him to be labeled as a good player but who is also a dumbass. Chirinos has some catching up to do in order to catch Altuve in that department. I am all for "aggressive" baseball, but, there is a difference in "aggressive" and "stupid".....Altuve and Chirinos both made stupid decisions that hurt the team. Being aggressive means stealing bases, using the hit and run. suicide squeeze. Moves as stupid as those won't work the next time, either. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 22, 2019 11:14:32 GMT -6
Network was brilliant in the same way Dr. Strangelove was brilliant. These days nearly every motion picture is subversive, but the profundity is on par with a bowl of tapioca pudding
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