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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 17, 2019 18:15:21 GMT -6
I still have a feeling that we're going to see a major sanction against Luhnow...and I fear it's going to include a ban. They banned a few guys over the last couple of years, including the guy from ATL who cheated on the international draft system.
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Post by batman007 on Nov 17, 2019 18:51:01 GMT -6
Didn't they ban the STL hacker?
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Post by talshill on Nov 17, 2019 19:53:55 GMT -6
I still have a feeling that we're going to see a major sanction against Luhnow...and I fear it's going to include a ban. They banned a few guys over the last couple of years, including the guy from ATL who cheated on the international draft system. It appears that the "smartest guys in the room" moniker the Astros picked up over the past couple of years is an illusion. Electronic transmissions never die. Leaving an electronic paper trail is just plain dumb. But I think you're right. Heads will roll over this. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 17, 2019 20:16:01 GMT -6
They sure need to have someone tell them what “discoverable” means.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2019 20:26:13 GMT -6
This all makes me feel there was a reason why Springer looked REALLY lost at the plate this postseason.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 9:07:46 GMT -6
They sure need to have someone tell them what “discoverable” means. And more important.... verifiable, and comprehensive if the MSM complex want to turn this sport into a Game of Saints. If we are looking at high stakes punative measures like bans, this investigation needs to be expanded to all 30 teams. Thus far all this bullshit has been based on heresay. And like I said earlier, does MLB really want to open this can of worms? I'd venture the number of teams that have not tried to get an advantage over another team under questionable tactics. Probably 0-5, and likely closer to zero. Just like back in the '60's when Durocher accused of turning on the dome AC only when his team came up to bat, and believe me that story had legs at the time (ridiculously). If the COB wants to turn this into a clown show, they might as well play a game of "Game Viabilty Russian Roulette" with 5 of 6 in the chamber. Luhnow is a smart guy. If they want to ruin him, I hope he creates a shit storm of epic proportion. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 18, 2019 9:11:30 GMT -6
They sure need to have someone tell them what “discoverable” means. And more important.... verifiable, and comprehensive if the MSM complex want to turn this sport into a Game of Saints. If we are looking at high stakes punative measures like bans, this investigation needs to be expanded to all 30 teams. Thus far all this bullshit has been based on heresay. And like I said earlier, does MLB really want to open this can of worms? I'd venture the number of teams that have not tried to get an advantage over another team under questionable tactics. Probably 0-5, and likely closer to zero. Just like back in the '60's when Durocher accused of turning on the dome AC only when his team came up to bat, and believe me that story had legs at the time (ridiculously). If the COB wants to turn this into a clown show, they might as well play a game of "Game Viabilty Russian Roulette" with 5 of 6 in the chamber. Luhnow is a smart guy. If they want to ruin him, I hope he creates a shit storm of epic proportion. Just give the trophy each year to the Marlins, there is no way they are cheating. |
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 18, 2019 10:05:58 GMT -6
The more I see videos on the Astros, the more they look guilty of some level of wrongdoing. I see a storm brewing on the horizon. The sound on the video reminds me of the M-V-P that we clap along with at the games. I know I'm biased towards my Astros but I think someone doctored that video using that exact sound. The east coast bias fanboys are working overtime to make the Astros look bad. I hope next season our guys come out and go to the World Series once again. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 18, 2019 10:20:24 GMT -6
The more I see videos on the Astros, the more they look guilty of some level of wrongdoing. I see a storm brewing on the horizon. The sound on the video reminds me of the M-V-P that we clap along with at the games. I know I'm biased towards my Astros but I think someone doctored that video using that exact sound. The east coast bias fanboys are working overtime to make the Astros look bad. I hope next season our guys come out and go to the World Series once again. All of the videos could very well be doctored and sound added. That crap about beating on a trash can is more that questionable. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 18, 2019 11:00:30 GMT -6
The more I see videos on the Astros, the more they look guilty of some level of wrongdoing. I see a storm brewing on the horizon. The sound on the video reminds me of the M-V-P that we clap along with at the games. I know I'm biased towards my Astros but I think someone doctored that video using that exact sound. The east coast bias fanboys are working overtime to make the Astros look bad. I hope next season our guys come out and go to the World Series once again. Doctored? Do you really think people hate the Astros that much? |
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 18, 2019 11:09:16 GMT -6
The sound on the video reminds me of the M-V-P that we clap along with at the games. I know I'm biased towards my Astros but I think someone doctored that video using that exact sound. The east coast bias fanboys are working overtime to make the Astros look bad. I hope next season our guys come out and go to the World Series once again. Doctored? Do you really think people hate the Astros that much? Yes. We’re talking about the Yankees. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 18, 2019 11:43:55 GMT -6
The more I see videos on the Astros, the more they look guilty of some level of wrongdoing. I see a storm brewing on the horizon. The sound on the video reminds me of the M-V-P that we clap along with at the games. I know I'm biased towards my Astros but I think someone doctored that video using that exact sound. The east coast bias fanboys are working overtime to make the Astros look bad. I hope next season our guys come out and go to the World Series once again. You're acting like those ghetto moms who go on the news and say that their baby dindoo nuffin, and was turning his life around and about to enroll in the local junior college. |
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 18, 2019 12:01:18 GMT -6
The sound on the video reminds me of the M-V-P that we clap along with at the games. I know I'm biased towards my Astros but I think someone doctored that video using that exact sound. The east coast bias fanboys are working overtime to make the Astros look bad. I hope next season our guys come out and go to the World Series once again. You're acting like those ghetto moms who go on the news and say that their baby dindoo nuffin, and was turning his life around and about to enroll in the local junior college. Whatever, Tim. You're going to owe me a big apology when it turns out the Astros were being set-up by the Yankees fans. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 18, 2019 12:10:29 GMT -6
The sound on the video reminds me of the M-V-P that we clap along with at the games. I know I'm biased towards my Astros but I think someone doctored that video using that exact sound. The east coast bias fanboys are working overtime to make the Astros look bad. I hope next season our guys come out and go to the World Series once again. Doctored? Do you really think people hate the Astros that much? Some do, and, many are in the medial. We took the Yankees down off their pedestal and the Yankees are media darlings who they think get them top ratings. The Astros continuing to eliminate the Yankees doesn't endear them to the East coast media. They are not above planting this crap after they doctor the video. |
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Post by churchill on Nov 18, 2019 12:11:16 GMT -6
They sure need to have someone tell them what “discoverable” means. Thus far all this bullshit has been based on heresay. And like I said earlier, does MLB really want to open this can of worms? I'd venture the number of teams that have not tried to get an advantage over another team under questionable tactics. Probably 0-5, and likely closer to zero. The Athletic has a text that says they wanted to steal signals possibly with a camera. That seems to be more than hearsay. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 18, 2019 12:11:43 GMT -6
You're acting like those ghetto moms who go on the news and say that their baby dindoo nuffin, and was turning his life around and about to enroll in the local junior college. Whatever, Tim. You're going to owe me a big apology when it turns out the Astros were being set-up by the Yankees fans. And if that turns out to be the case, I'll offer it. But I'm afraid you're going to be very, very disappointed. The Yankees didn't hack that dude's email where he was telling the scouts to cheat, and they didn't brainwash Mike Fiers and make him snitch. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 18, 2019 12:12:48 GMT -6
You're acting like those ghetto moms who go on the news and say that their baby dindoo nuffin, and was turning his life around and about to enroll in the local junior college. Whatever, Tim. You're going to owe me a big apology when it turns out the Astros were being set-up by the Yankees fans. You and I are in total agreement........this whole thing was instigated by the Yankees and the media that loves them.......Some of them like Mad Dog Russo come right out and admit to being big Yankee fans. Lots of people probably lost money when we eliminated the Yankees again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 12:22:45 GMT -6
Thus far all this bullshit has been based on heresay. And like I said earlier, does MLB really want to open this can of worms? I'd venture the number of teams that have not tried to get an advantage over another team under questionable tactics. Probably 0-5, and likely closer to zero. The Athletic has a text that says they wanted to steal signals possibly with a camera. That seems to be more than hearsay. Again the infamous "they" is implicated. I want to hear some names, phone owners, dates, times, and other specifics. Like so much else, those accused are getting tried by the court of public opinion. Was Luhnow or Hinch implicated? Bullpen pitcher? Who please. If it is confimed, or proven, wanna bet how many other teams are employing the same tactic? Let's go scorched earth, and investigate every team. Then let the f'n chips fly where they may. Otherwise, clickbait shit like "The Athletic" can STFU. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 12:25:29 GMT -6
The Athletic has a text that says they wanted to steal signals possibly with a camera. That seems to be more than hearsay. Again the infamous "they" is implicated. I want to hear some names, phone owners, dates, times, and other specifics. Like so much else, those accused are getting tried by the court of public opinion. Was Luhnow or Hinch implicated? Bullpen pitcher? Who please. If it is confimed, or proven, wanna bet how many other teams are employing the same tactic? Let's go scorched earth, and investigate every team. Then let the f'n chips fly where they may. Otherwise, clickbait shit like "The Athletic" can STFU. In the past, I have seen folks on Yankee boards suggesting planting false evidence on the BoSox of wrongdoing. Not that far fetched. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 18, 2019 12:29:56 GMT -6
The Athletic has a text that says they wanted to steal signals possibly with a camera. That seems to be more than hearsay. Again the infamous "they" is implicated. I want to hear some names, phone owners, dates, times, and other specifics. Like so much else, those accused are getting tried by the court of public opinion. Was Luhnow or Hinch implicated? Bullpen pitcher? Who please. If it is confimed, or proven, wanna bet how many other teams are employing the same tactic? Let's go scorched earth, and investigate every team. Then let the f'n chips fly where they may. Otherwise, clickbait shit like "The Athletic" can STFU. "They": |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 18, 2019 13:09:58 GMT -6
The Athletic has a text that says they wanted to steal signals possibly with a camera. That seems to be more than hearsay. Again the infamous "they" is implicated. I want to hear some names, phone owners, dates, times, and other specifics. Like so much else, those accused are getting tried by the court of public opinion. Was Luhnow or Hinch implicated? Bullpen pitcher? Who please. If it is confimed, or proven, wanna bet how many other teams are employing the same tactic? Let's go scorched earth, and investigate every team. Then let the f'n chips fly where they may. Otherwise, clickbait shit like "The Athletic" can STFU. You are on the right track....If the Astros are doing what they are accused of doing .....and, as of yet, there is no concrete proof of their guilt......other teams are doing the same damn thing. The COB doesn't dare do a full scale investigation because of what would probably be found.......all over both leagues. This "they" said stuff is total bullshit until it is proven to be accurate. I doubt if anything can be traced directly to Luhnow or Hinch. But., if they do want to dig into this all the way, then, go all the way and investigage every team in both leagues for the same thing.\ \ I am going to have to see concrete evidence before I believe this stuff wasn't created by the Yankees who are reeling from being knocked out by the Astros the last three times the teams have met in the post season. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 18, 2019 13:23:39 GMT -6
Give it up, Tim. They’re all out to destroy us...using our own front office personnel...
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Post by Saint on Nov 18, 2019 13:30:58 GMT -6
Talking about seeing if they can pick out signs from the dugout is different from actually reading signs from the catcher and transmitting them to the dugout/clubhouse.
It looks bad, but it doesn't mean they did something against the rules.
(Although I believe something a little beyond the rules was happening.)
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 18, 2019 13:34:56 GMT -6
Why didn't you post the rest of the article that says the Astros fired 8 of the scouts in August 2017 after finding out about what was on this e-mail? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 18, 2019 13:40:16 GMT -6
Again the infamous "they" is implicated. I want to hear some names, phone owners, dates, times, and other specifics. Like so much else, those accused are getting tried by the court of public opinion. Was Luhnow or Hinch implicated? Bullpen pitcher? Who please. If it is confimed, or proven, wanna bet how many other teams are employing the same tactic? Let's go scorched earth, and investigate every team. Then let the f'n chips fly where they may. Otherwise, clickbait shit like "The Athletic" can STFU. \ I am going to have to see concrete evidence before I believe this stuff wasn't created by the Yankees who are reeling from being knocked out by the Astros the last three times the teams have met in the post season. Mike F'n Fiers plays for OAKLAND |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 18, 2019 13:41:09 GMT -6
Why didn't you post the rest of the article that says the Astros fired 8 of the scouts in August 2017 after finding out about what was on this e-mail? Did they fire the Assistant GM who told them to do it? Were the 8 fired scouts the ones who did it...or the ones who WOULDN'T? |
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Post by Saint on Nov 18, 2019 13:41:26 GMT -6
\ I am going to have to see concrete evidence before I believe this stuff wasn't created by the Yankees who are reeling from being knocked out by the Astros the last three times the teams have met in the post season. Mike F'n Fiers plays for OAKLAND So we didn't knock his team out of the postseason, we just kept them from winning the division the last couple years. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 18, 2019 13:44:15 GMT -6
Mike F'n Fiers plays for OAKLAND So we didn't knock his team out of the postseason, we just kept them from winning the division the last couple years. Apparently, the reach of Yankees fans and media is so long that they can even get a pitcher for the Oakland Athletics to make up vile lies about those mouthy upstart Astros. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 13:51:36 GMT -6
Again the infamous "they" is implicated. I want to hear some names, phone owners, dates, times, and other specifics. Like so much else, those accused are getting tried by the court of public opinion. Was Luhnow or Hinch implicated? Bullpen pitcher? Who please. If it is confimed, or proven, wanna bet how many other teams are employing the same tactic? Let's go scorched earth, and investigate every team. Then let the f'n chips fly where they may. Otherwise, clickbait shit like "The Athletic" can STFU. "They": One thing though.... Things like elaborate stealing is only do-able at home. Before we discuss the joys of cheating, let me remind everyone what our 2017 Home / Away splits though. Home... 48-33 .593 Away... 53-28 .654 If we were cheating, we sure were damn bad at it. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 18, 2019 13:56:43 GMT -6
So we didn't knock his team out of the postseason, we just kept them from winning the division the last couple years. Apparently, the reach of Yankees fans and media is so long that they can even get a pitcher for the Oakland Athletics to make up vile lies about those mouthy upstart Astros. Fiers' motivation and behavior with this is strange though. Why wait? Why take the ring? I wonder more if somebody else was going to come forward and he wanted to get out ahead of it. |
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