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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 13:38:34 GMT -6
At least if y'all don't have faith in Stassi, don't settle for Maldonado... Go get somebody who is at least league-average.... That's all I ask. And just exactly what is "league average" according to you? No other catcher in the league has Maldonado's arm, the pitchers all like working with him. I suppose you think Stassi is above league average. It is comments like those that you have made about Maldonado and calling Gurriel a "weak defensive first baseman" as well as being non-productive with the bat, that makes you sound like an idiot. You have had the gall to call me an idiot, racist, and bigot while you keep pulling comments out of your ass when you evaluate players. I have yet to see anyone agree with you on Maldonado or Gurriel. What had you rather we do ...go get Castro and Centeno back?
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 13:42:09 GMT -6
the thing I do not like about Stassi is that Verlander and Keuchel do not like throwing to him. Keuchel will be gone and Verlander is only here one more year. Can't base a decision just on that. Yet another statement you pulled out of your ass.......Keuchel will PROBABLY be gone, but, it is not definite. And, you don't know if Verlander will only be here one more year or not. Just more bullshit you use to try to justify wanting to keep Stassi who . Since you seem to know who will be here and who won't and who the pitcher prefer, why don't you take a poll of the pitching staff and see who they had rather have catching them....Maldonado or Stassi. I gurantee that NONE of them will pick Stassi.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 13:45:16 GMT -6
I kind of forgot about Edwards as well as Grote. But they were good but not great. I liked Eusebio. All of the pitchers liked Edwards and Ausmus as far as I remember
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 13:51:24 GMT -6
The stat geek hopes the front office isn't dumb enough to waste money trying to re-sign one of the top defensive catchers around. We have never had a catcher who shuts down a running game like Maldonado. Stassi had a good start and fizzled out. He has been basically useless for the last half of the season. The front office would make a major mistake by NOT trying to re-sign Maldonado. Hopefully, Stubbs is ready to come up, be the backup, and learn from Maldonado so we can get rid of Stassi. Calling him a top catcher over and over again until you believe it doesn't make it so. If y'all want a crappier version of Castro (at his worst), go for it. Doesn't make sense to me but I don't own the team. Everyone here blows your argument against Maldonado full of holes, yet you keep clinging to the BS that he is below average, blah blah blah. He is vastly superior to Stassi in every aspect of the game except hitting, and, they are not that far apart in that area. As one poster said, when was the last time Stassi did something meaningful? He quit hitting......he can't throw.....he doesn t receive well or call pitches that well so the pitchers don't like to work with him. But, you keep on praising him and showing how little you know about evaluating players. If Stubbs is close to ready, Stassi is history.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 14:07:13 GMT -6
IMO....Johnny Edwards was the greatest Astros catcher. He wasn't a great hitter, but in the dead offense era of the '60's and '70's, he wasn't that awfully bad. Defensively, he was a bad ass, and if it wasn't for playing in the same era as Bench, would have gotten a whole lot more attention, I kind of forgot about Edwards as well as Grote. But they were good but not great. lol...okay....the "goodest" Astro Catcher ever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 14:11:15 GMT -6
All of the pitchers liked Edwards and Ausmus as far as I remember You mean the same Brad Ausmus, who had a 0.8 lifetime WAR (yep zero point eight) in 10 years with the team.
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2018 14:18:51 GMT -6
Calling him a top catcher over and over again until you believe it doesn't make it so. If y'all want a crappier version of Castro (at his worst), go for it. Doesn't make sense to me but I don't own the team. Everyone here blows your argument against Maldonado full of holes, yet you keep clinging to the BS that he is below average, blah blah blah. He is vastly superior to Stassi in every aspect of the game except hitting, and, they are not that far apart in that area. As one poster said, when was the last time Stassi did something meaningful? He quit hitting......he can't throw.....he doesn t receive well or call pitches that well so the pitchers don't like to work with him. But, you keep on praising him and showing how little you know about evaluating players. If Stubbs is close to ready, Stassi is history. I'm the only person posting factual information about their performance. I'm not making stuff up or assuming pitchers like or don't like somebody. I'm posting unbiased data that anybody could find. The only legitimate argument you could make for Maldonado over Stassi would be the "intangibles" he brings due to veteran experience. Intangibles are great, but I trust results. And the results show him worse than Castro ever was. Obviously that's okay with a lot of people. It's not okay with me. I want a catcher that's at least mediocre. To each their own!
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 3, 2018 14:25:34 GMT -6
Maldonado>Stassi.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 3, 2018 14:28:41 GMT -6
Everyone here blows your argument against Maldonado full of holes, yet you keep clinging to the BS that he is below average, blah blah blah. He is vastly superior to Stassi in every aspect of the game except hitting, and, they are not that far apart in that area. As one poster said, when was the last time Stassi did something meaningful? He quit hitting......he can't throw.....he doesn t receive well or call pitches that well so the pitchers don't like to work with him. But, you keep on praising him and showing how little you know about evaluating players. If Stubbs is close to ready, Stassi is history. I'm the only person posting factual information LMFAO
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 14:30:41 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2018 14:38:25 GMT -6
I'm the only person posting factual information LMFAO What did I post that wasn't factual or can be supported with factual data? Do I need to post links and bibliographies or something?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 14:42:26 GMT -6
What did I post that wasn't factual or can be supported with factual data? Do I need to post links and bibliographies or something? Yeah, and make sure they are double spaced with proper indention. (jk) Well written summation of the team for the yr.
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2018 14:46:13 GMT -6
If people want to say they like a player just because, then so be it. Liking them better doesn't mean they are ACTUALLY better.
And using the reason "well then how come they're playing more huh huh huh???" also doesn't mean they're ACTUALLY better. Teams, FOs and coaches make mistakes all the time. Look at what we did with JD Martinez.
I'll take the player that actually produces better results. But that's just me. Everybody gets their own opinion.
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2018 14:47:04 GMT -6
What did I post that wasn't factual or can be supported with factual data? Do I need to post links and bibliographies or something? Yeah, and make sure they are double spaced with proper indention. (jk) Well written summation of the team for the yr. Thanks! If nothing else at least it produces some debates.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 15:45:31 GMT -6
All of the pitchers liked Edwards and Ausmus as far as I remember You mean the same Brad Ausmus, who had a 0.8 lifetime WAR (yep zero point eight) in 10 years with the team. Same guy.....terrible catcher....He makes Stassi look like Johnny Bench and Pudge Rodriguez.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 15:46:31 GMT -6
Everyone here blows your argument against Maldonado full of holes, yet you keep clinging to the BS that he is below average, blah blah blah. He is vastly superior to Stassi in every aspect of the game except hitting, and, they are not that far apart in that area. As one poster said, when was the last time Stassi did something meaningful? He quit hitting......he can't throw.....he doesn t receive well or call pitches that well so the pitchers don't like to work with him. But, you keep on praising him and showing how little you know about evaluating players. If Stubbs is close to ready, Stassi is history. I'm the only person posting factual information about their performance. I'm not making stuff up or assuming pitchers like or don't like somebody. I'm posting unbiased data that anybody could find. The only legitimate argument you could make for Maldonado over Stassi would be the "intangibles" he brings due to veteran experience. Intangibles are great, but I trust results. And the results show him worse than Castro ever was. Obviously that's okay with a lot of people. It's not okay with me. I want a catcher that's at least mediocre. To each their own! You are the only one who is totally full of shit and is too dumb to know it.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 15:48:52 GMT -6
I'm the only person posting factual information LMFAO The problem is that this dumbass actually believes that. He IS the authority.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 15:51:15 GMT -6
If people want to say they like a player just because, then so be it. Liking them better doesn't mean they are ACTUALLY better. And using the reason "well then how come they're playing more huh huh huh???" also doesn't mean they're ACTUALLY better. Teams, FOs and coaches make mistakes all the time. Look at what we did with JD Martinez. I'll take the player that actually produces better results. But that's just me. Everybody gets their own opinion. Problem is that you are incapable of recognizing everything that goes into determining results....it's not just something on a stat sheet. You are too dense to see that.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 15:53:05 GMT -6
Yeah, and make sure they are double spaced with proper indention. (jk) Well written summation of the team for the yr. Thanks! If nothing else at least it produces some debates. You did post some interesting numbers. I will give you credit for putting in the time to come up with them. It is obvious you enjoy doing that sort of thing and these numbers play a role in determining player values,but, they are not the only thing necessary.
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2018 15:54:57 GMT -6
Beto, keep your insults to me in one post. I don't want to reply to every comment separately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 16:06:24 GMT -6
Beto, keep your insults to me in one post. I don't want to reply to every comment separately. Coach is a O'Rourke supporter? Wouldn't have thought.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 16:13:55 GMT -6
Beto, keep your insults to me in one post. I don't want to reply to every comment separately. Hugo, you don't have to respond at all. Sorry if you think pointing out your lack of baseball knowledge is insulting you. Just stating facts.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 16:16:04 GMT -6
Beto, keep your insults to me in one post. I don't want to reply to every comment separately. Coach is a O'Rourke supporter? Wouldn't have thought. I won't vote for that sommunist fake Mexican any more than I voted for Hillary. I support Cruz and Trump 100% and can't wait to hear liberals scream when Kavanaugh is confirmed. Anyone who believes a word out of Christine Ford's mouth is an idiot.
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2018 19:45:15 GMT -6
Beto, keep your insults to me in one post. I don't want to reply to every comment separately. Hugo, you don't have to respond at all. Sorry if you think pointing out your lack of baseball knowledge is insulting you. Just stating facts. You're not posting any facts at all. 🙄
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2018 19:45:48 GMT -6
Beto, keep your insults to me in one post. I don't want to reply to every comment separately. Coach is a O'Rourke supporter? Wouldn't have thought. The way he flip flops around and makes stuff up, I just assume he's a liberal fan.
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Post by m240 on Oct 3, 2018 20:48:39 GMT -6
the thing I do not like about Stassi is that Verlander and Keuchel do not like throwing to him. Keuchel will be gone and Verlander is only here one more year. Can't base a decision just on that. the point about Verlander and Keuchel not wanting to pitch to Stassi very simply is that they do not like his game management.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 21:52:14 GMT -6
Hugo, you don't have to respond at all. Sorry if you think pointing out your lack of baseball knowledge is insulting you. Just stating facts. You're not posting any facts at all. 🙄 Really!! I think I posted several times that Maldonado would be on the playoff roster and Stassi would not.......that is a fact. I posted Gurriel was one of the top clutch hitters in the league......another fact. When you continued calling Osuna a "wife beater", I posted that he had never been married, and, you continued calling him a wife beater. I told you the charges against him would go away.....that is a fact. Now, find something else to whine about.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 21:54:55 GMT -6
Coach is a O'Rourke supporter? Wouldn't have thought. The way he flip flops around and makes stuff up, I just assume he's a liberal fan. Look, idiot.....you are the one who twists things to make it look like you are right when you have no clue.....which is about 95% of the time. Your interpretation of stats are not facts.......they are your opinion.. and, your opinions usually show you to be full of shit.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2018 21:55:58 GMT -6
Keuchel will be gone and Verlander is only here one more year. Can't base a decision just on that. the point about Verlander and Keuchel not wanting to pitch to Stassi very simply is that they do not like his game management. Watch out, Saint will take offense to facts being stated about his boy Stassi. Stassi is weak........period
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Post by m240 on Oct 4, 2018 8:45:44 GMT -6
the point about Verlander and Keuchel not wanting to pitch to Stassi very simply is that they do not like his game management. Watch out, Saint will take offense to facts being stated about his boy Stassi. Stassi is weak........period Stassi is a very good back up catcher. Nothing more, nothing less.
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