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Post by Saint on Oct 8, 2018 22:02:04 GMT -6
I've been positive about the things he is good at. In this same thread I stated he exhibited the most power of the catchers and had a great arm. Am I supposed to say he is good at everything else when history, stats, and "my eyes" say differently? I'm positive about players when they have positive attributes, but I never pretend they have something they dont. Maldonado has had success as a great receiver in the past. He doesn't anymore. Fact. He has an elite arm. Fact. He has decent power for a catcher. Fact. He is beyond pathetic at reaching base. Fact. He is no longer good at receiving. Fact. He gives up a ton of Passed Balls and Wild Pitches. Fact. He is a solid backup catcher, but he should not be starting everyday just like Jake shouldn't be. They have value as roleplayers. fact: You don't know squat about what you are talking about, Fact: catchers are NOT responsible for "wild pitches". That is why they are called wild pitches......they are created by the pitcher, not the catcher" Fact: Maldonado does NOT give up a "ton of passed balls". Fact: He is considered to be a good receiver, especially by pitchers he works with. FactL: You need to stop pulling information out of your ass and calling it facts. So he wasn't 2nd in the AL in passed balls this year? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 8, 2018 22:41:04 GMT -6
fact: You don't know squat about what you are talking about, Fact: catchers are NOT responsible for "wild pitches". That is why they are called wild pitches......they are created by the pitcher, not the catcher" Fact: Maldonado does NOT give up a "ton of passed balls". Fact: He is considered to be a good receiver, especially by pitchers he works with. FactL: You need to stop pulling information out of your ass and calling it facts. So he wasn't 2nd in the AL in passed balls this year? I wouldn't know and am not infatuated with numbers. My guess is that most of them came in LA when he was over-worked and never got a day off. Give it up,Blumenthal.........Maldondo is better than Stassi......always has been, always will be, You are the only one here who says otherwise. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 8, 2018 22:44:39 GMT -6
So he wasn't 2nd in the AL in passed balls this year? I wouldn't know and am not infatuated with numbers. My guess is that most of them came in LA when he was over-worked and never got a day off. Give it up,Blumenthal.........Maldondo is better than Stassi......always has been, always will be, You are the only one here who says otherwise. There we go. Ignore the facts. Done with you. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 8, 2018 23:22:11 GMT -6
I wouldn't know and am not infatuated with numbers. My guess is that most of them came in LA when he was over-worked and never got a day off. Give it up,Blumenthal.........Maldondo is better than Stassi......always has been, always will be, You are the only one here who says otherwise. There we go. Ignore the facts. Done with you. This makes at least a dozen times you have been "done" with me......Please stop lying and mean it this time. You are full of shit and can't read. Since I disagree with you, I ignore facts. NOBODY here agrees with this bullshit of yours about Maldonado. Has anyone agree with you or said you have a point..NO. Everyone knows you are full of shit.....now, please disappear. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 8:23:31 GMT -6
Here is the list of potential 2019 Free Agent catchers. Even if y'all don't believe in Stassi, I hope you see that there are a number of far far superior catchers available to Maldonado. (Copied from MLB, they included their age and fangraphs WAR from this season.)
Yasmani Grandal (30 years old, 2.6 WAR)
Wilson Ramos (31, 2.5)
Kurt Suzuki (35, 1.7)
A.J. Ellis (38, 1.0)
Martin Maldonado (32, 0.9)
Nick Hundley (35, 0.8)
Jonathan Lucroy (33, 0.5)
Devin Mesoraco (31, 0.5)
Rene Rivera (35, 0.4)
Matt Wieters (33, 0.4)
Jeff Mathis (36, -0.2)
Drew Butera (35, -0.4)
Personally I'd have some interest in Lucroy. He had a very down year but normally he is a very solid all-around catcher with a strong history of production. Due to his down year and never making it to a WS, I think he could be gotten here for a very reasonable contract. Suzuki is another strong potential, imo.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 9, 2018 8:27:40 GMT -6
I'd consider Grandal or Ramos, although both seem to be prone to injury....none of the rest. I know you want to get rid of Maldonado,but, you are in the minority here and in the Astros clubhousde.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 9, 2018 9:20:32 GMT -6
Maldondo is better than Stassi......always has been, always will be
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 9:34:35 GMT -6
Maldondo is better than Stassi......always has been, always will be
right before they start knocking the cover off the ballThere's no point. He is already wrong with that statement to begin with. Stassi, in his first full year, had a better year offensively than Maldonado ever has if you go by OPS+ or weighted runs created (a stat even he has said he respects). |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 9, 2018 9:38:58 GMT -6
Careful .. we're not allowed to tag-team this guy. Else we'll get accused of running his underwear up a flagpole
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 9:44:48 GMT -6
True. My bad. I'll just continue to let him call me names and make up false statements that I've said.
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Post by m240 on Oct 9, 2018 10:03:27 GMT -6
I really do not care who we sign so long as we improve the offense from the catcher’s position without harming the play calling and defense.
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 10:42:51 GMT -6
I really do not care who we sign so long as we improve the offense from the catcher’s position without harming the play calling and defense. Likewise. What I'm getting at is, if we're not willing to give Stassi and/or Stubbs a chance to be that guy or tandem, we need to go ahead and get somebody we KNOW will be. Not settle for a career backup catcher. Go get someone proven to be an everyday starter that can at least hit his own weight. (which, for the record, Stassi has and Maldonado has not...) That being said, I think we have enough already there with a capable player with years of control, and a prospect with good potential without having to go and spend any extra money. I think the focus should be on extensions for Springer and/or Bregman, and then making sure we're comfortable with the depth of our starting rotation. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 9, 2018 11:17:53 GMT -6
I really do not care who we sign so long as we improve the offense from the catcher’s position without harming the play calling and defense. Likewise. What I'm getting at is, if we're not willing to give Stassi and/or Stubbs a chance to be that guy or tandem, we need to go ahead and get somebody we KNOW will be. Not settle for a career backup catcher. Go get someone proven to be an everyday starter that can at least hit his own weight. (which, for the record, Stassi has and Maldonado has not...) That being said, I think we have enough already there with a capable player with years of control, and a prospect with good potential without having to go and spend any extra money. I think the focus should be on extensions for Springer and/or Bregman, and then making sure we're comfortable with the depth of our starting rotation. How many chances do we have to give Stassi? He has proven he can't hit, throw, and the pitchers are uncomfortable with him behind the plate. On the other hand, our pitchers seem to be quite comfortable with the "career backup catcher' that you blatantly despise. I think you are biased against Hispanic catchers.  |
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 11:28:28 GMT -6
Likewise. What I'm getting at is, if we're not willing to give Stassi and/or Stubbs a chance to be that guy or tandem, we need to go ahead and get somebody we KNOW will be. Not settle for a career backup catcher. Go get someone proven to be an everyday starter that can at least hit his own weight. (which, for the record, Stassi has and Maldonado has not...) That being said, I think we have enough already there with a capable player with years of control, and a prospect with good potential without having to go and spend any extra money. I think the focus should be on extensions for Springer and/or Bregman, and then making sure we're comfortable with the depth of our starting rotation. How many chances do we have to give Stassi? He has proven he can't hit, throw, and the pitchers are uncomfortable with him behind the plate. On the other hand, our pitchers seem to be quite comfortable with the "career backup catcher' that you blatantly despise. I think you are biased against Hispanic catchers. A. My wife is Hispanic, Beto. I'm not the one who has proven to be racist and intolerant of other religions. B. If Stassi can't hit, what do you call what Maldonado does when he is considerably worse offensively, than Stassi. C. Not one pitcher has said they're uncomfortable with Stassi. You're making assumptions because Hinch is favoring veterans during a postseason run. That doesn't mean they're uncomfortable with him. D. How about more than one half a season? |
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Post by marshall on Oct 9, 2018 12:11:30 GMT -6
1. Realmuto $$$ to try for the trifecta with Verlander in 2019.
2. Stubbs Prospect
3. Muldanato Jopurneyman
4. Stassi Backup plan
5. Fiedorowicz Injury Replacement.
? McCann may not want to have his option exercised so I'm leaving him off until I hear otherwise. He's has one and may have two WS rings to end his career.
? Gattis does not show any indication of ever getting behind the plate again so I'm leaving him off.
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 12:14:57 GMT -6
They won't exercise McCann's option.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 9, 2018 12:19:33 GMT -6
Here is the list of potential 2019 Free Agent catchers. Even if y'all don't believe in Stassi, I hope you see that there are a number of far far superior catchers available to Maldonado. (Copied from MLB, they included their age and fangraphs WAR from this season.) Yasmani Grandal (30 years old, 2.6 WAR) Wilson Ramos (31, 2.5) Kurt Suzuki (35, 1.7) A.J. Ellis (38, 1.0) Martin Maldonado (32, 0.9) Nick Hundley (35, 0.8) Jonathan Lucroy (33, 0.5) Devin Mesoraco (31, 0.5) Rene Rivera (35, 0.4) Matt Wieters (33, 0.4) Jeff Mathis (36, -0.2) Drew Butera (35, -0.4) Personally I'd have some interest in Lucroy. He had a very down year but normally he is a very solid all-around catcher with a strong history of production. Due to his down year and never making it to a WS, I think he could be gotten here for a very reasonable contract. Suzuki is another strong potential, imo. Grandal or Ramos would be easy upgrades over what the Astros currently have. However, getting them puts them in the same problem of wondering what to do with Stassi and Stubbs. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 12:32:11 GMT -6
Here is the list of potential 2019 Free Agent catchers. Even if y'all don't believe in Stassi, I hope you see that there are a number of far far superior catchers available to Maldonado. (Copied from MLB, they included their age and fangraphs WAR from this season.) Yasmani Grandal (30 years old, 2.6 WAR) Wilson Ramos (31, 2.5) Kurt Suzuki (35, 1.7) A.J. Ellis (38, 1.0) Martin Maldonado (32, 0.9) Nick Hundley (35, 0.8) Jonathan Lucroy (33, 0.5) Devin Mesoraco (31, 0.5) Rene Rivera (35, 0.4) Matt Wieters (33, 0.4) Jeff Mathis (36, -0.2) Drew Butera (35, -0.4) Personally I'd have some interest in Lucroy. He had a very down year but normally he is a very solid all-around catcher with a strong history of production. Due to his down year and never making it to a WS, I think he could be gotten here for a very reasonable contract. Suzuki is another strong potential, imo. Grandal or Ramos would be easy upgrades over what the Astros currently have. However, getting them puts them in the same problem of wondering what to do with Stassi and Stubbs. I like both of those guys, but you're talking quite a bit of money for a position where even the primary starters rarely catch more than a 120 games regularly. Grandal has averaged 104 a season, and Ramos only 84. |
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Post by m240 on Oct 9, 2018 12:33:14 GMT -6
1. Realmuto $$$ to try for the trifecta with Verlander in 2019. 2. Stubbs Prospect 3. Muldanato Jopurneyman 4. Stassi Backup plan 5. Fiedorowicz Injury Replacement. ? McCann may not want to have his option exercised so I'm leaving him off until I hear otherwise. He's has one and may have two WS rings to end his career. ? Gattis does not show any indication of ever getting behind the plate again so I'm leaving him off. Realmuto looks real interesting to me and has for a while now. Consider this Miami does not have a starter who could start for the Astros this year, last year, or the year before. They do not have any starters in the minor league system close to coming up. They do not have any top 100 pitching prospects. They rated #20 in mlb in team era. In short, their staff sucks. What do we have an abundance of in the minors, pitching. So I am pretty sure we could pry away Realmuto with a package that centered on pitching, perhaps headlined by Valdez and Perez a couple lefties. Throw in Stassi and another guy and my guess we could have Realmuto for the next two years. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 12:39:32 GMT -6
1. Realmuto $$$ to try for the trifecta with Verlander in 2019. 2. Stubbs Prospect 3. Muldanato Jopurneyman 4. Stassi Backup plan 5. Fiedorowicz Injury Replacement. ? McCann may not want to have his option exercised so I'm leaving him off until I hear otherwise. He's has one and may have two WS rings to end his career. ? Gattis does not show any indication of ever getting behind the plate again so I'm leaving him off. Realmuto looks real interesting to me and has for a while now. Consider this Miami does not have a starter who could start for the Astros this year, last year, or the year before. They do not have any starters in the minor league system close to coming up. They do not have any top 100 pitching prospects. They rated #20 in mlb in team era. In short, their staff sucks. What do we have an abundance of in the minors, pitching. So I am pretty sure we could pry away Realmuto with a package that centered on pitching, perhaps headlined by Valdez and Perez a couple lefties. Throw in Stassi and another guy and my guess we could have Realmuto for the next two years. There are a lot of question marks with our rotation after next year. We could potentially lose Verlander, Cole, McHugh, and possibly already be without Morton and Keuchel. If you give up multiple top pitching prospects for one player we could be in trouble relying on a questionable rotation. And that would be a shame given what we would still have as a core of position players. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 9, 2018 12:39:40 GMT -6
Go to the ER. You're having a stroke. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 9, 2018 13:25:59 GMT -6
Maldondo is better than Stassi......always has been, always will be
right before they start knocking the cover off the ballHow do I get myself into trouble by making predictions? Some end up being right and some end up being wrong. At least, I admit when I'm wrong unless Saint who keeps promoting Stassi who has done nothing to show he deserves it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 9, 2018 13:35:51 GMT -6
How many chances do we have to give Stassi? He has proven he can't hit, throw, and the pitchers are uncomfortable with him behind the plate. On the other hand, our pitchers seem to be quite comfortable with the "career backup catcher' that you blatantly despise. I think you are biased against Hispanic catchers. A. My wife is Hispanic, Beto. I'm not the one who has proven to be racist and intolerant of other religions. B. If Stassi can't hit, what do you call what Maldonado does when he is considerably worse offensively, than Stassi. C. Not one pitcher has said they're uncomfortable with Stassi. You're making assumptions because Hinch is favoring veterans during a postseason run. That doesn't mean they're uncomfortable with him. D. How about more than one half a season? A. You seem to think that Islam is a religion. Like many others, it is a terroristic cult in my view. Nothing remotely religious about it. I make no apology for detesting these maggots. I am totally intolerant of this so-called religion and Islam is not a race so your racist label doesn't fit. In any case, I don't give a damn if you think I'm racist since the opinion of a lying idiot is not important to me. You say you are leaving the board and yet you keep coming back with the same old bullshit. B. I have never said Maldonado is a good hitter, but, he has been more productive since he has been here than Stassi. The only time Stassi hits is against mediocre left-handed pitchers. C. It is widely known that Verlander was uncomfortable with Stassi. It was evident by some of the meetings on the mound and the reaction of Verlander to the way Stassi called a game. McCullers was also unhappy with him. Apparently, Hinch thinks Maldonado and McCann are both better than Stassi since both are on the roster and Stassi was left off YOU are the only one here who keeps blasting Maldonado and praising Stassi, which proves my point about you being terrible at evaluating talent, especially catching. |
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Post by m240 on Oct 9, 2018 13:38:32 GMT -6
Realmuto looks real interesting to me and has for a while now. Consider this Miami does not have a starter who could start for the Astros this year, last year, or the year before. They do not have any starters in the minor league system close to coming up. They do not have any top 100 pitching prospects. They rated #20 in mlb in team era. In short, their staff sucks. What do we have an abundance of in the minors, pitching. So I am pretty sure we could pry away Realmuto with a package that centered on pitching, perhaps headlined by Valdez and Perez a couple lefties. Throw in Stassi and another guy and my guess we could have Realmuto for the next two years. There are a lot of question marks with our rotation after next year. We could potentially lose Verlander, Cole, McHugh, and possibly already be without Morton and Keuchel. If you give up multiple top pitching prospects for one player we could be in trouble relying on a questionable rotation. And that would be a shame given what we would still have as a core of position players. It is inconceivable that all of our starters will abandon ship with the team and the promise that this franchise has for the future. I understand the concern but given our level of depth and the lack of probability that we have in losing all of them I would pull the trigger. And of course I would work my ass off trying to sign Verlander, Cole, and Morton to extensions this winter. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 13:39:16 GMT -6
A. My wife is Hispanic, Beto. I'm not the one who has proven to be racist and intolerant of other religions. B. If Stassi can't hit, what do you call what Maldonado does when he is considerably worse offensively, than Stassi. C. Not one pitcher has said they're uncomfortable with Stassi. You're making assumptions because Hinch is favoring veterans during a postseason run. That doesn't mean they're uncomfortable with him. D. How about more than one half a season? A. You seem to think that Islam is a religion. Like many others, it is a terroristic cult in my view. Nothing remotely religious about it. I make no apology for detesting these maggots. I am totally intolerant of this so-called religion and Islam is not a race so your racist label doesn't fit. In any case, I don't give a damn if you think I'm racist since the opinion of a lying idiot is not important to me. You say you are leaving the board and yet you keep coming back with the same old bullshit. B. I have never said Maldonado is a good hitter, but, he has been more productive since he has been here than Stassi. The only time Stassi hits is against mediocre left-handed pitchers. C. It is widely known that Verlander was uncomfortable with Stassi. It was evident by some of the meetings on the mound and the reaction of Verlander to the way Stassi called a game. McCullers was also unhappy with him. Apparently, Hinch thinks Maldonado and McCann are both better than Stassi since both are on the roster and Stassi was left off YOU are the only one here who keeps blasting Maldonado and praising Stassi, which proves my point about you being terrible at evaluating talent, especially catching.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 9, 2018 13:39:17 GMT -6
1. Realmuto $$$ to try for the trifecta with Verlander in 2019. 2. Stubbs Prospect 3. Muldanato Jopurneyman 4. Stassi Backup plan 5. Fiedorowicz Injury Replacement. ? McCann may not want to have his option exercised so I'm leaving him off until I hear otherwise. He's has one and may have two WS rings to end his career. ? Gattis does not show any indication of ever getting behind the plate again so I'm leaving him off. Realmuto looks real interesting to me and has for a while now. Consider this Miami does not have a starter who could start for the Astros this year, last year, or the year before. They do not have any starters in the minor league system close to coming up. They do not have any top 100 pitching prospects. They rated #20 in mlb in team era. In short, their staff sucks. What do we have an abundance of in the minors, pitching. So I am pretty sure we could pry away Realmuto with a package that centered on pitching, perhaps headlined by Valdez and Perez a couple lefties. Throw in Stassi and another guy and my guess we could have Realmuto for the next two years. If we could get Realmuto for Stassi and a couple of pitching prospects, we should jump at it. I had rather keep Valdez as a replacement lefty starter since I doubt that we keep Keuchel. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 9, 2018 13:40:46 GMT -6
A. You seem to think that Islam is a religion. Like many others, it is a terroristic cult in my view. Nothing remotely religious about it. I make no apology for detesting these maggots. I am totally intolerant of this so-called religion and Islam is not a race so your racist label doesn't fit. In any case, I don't give a damn if you think I'm racist since the opinion of a lying idiot is not important to me. You say you are leaving the board and yet you keep coming back with the same old bullshit. B. I have never said Maldonado is a good hitter, but, he has been more productive since he has been here than Stassi. The only time Stassi hits is against mediocre left-handed pitchers. C. It is widely known that Verlander was uncomfortable with Stassi. It was evident by some of the meetings on the mound and the reaction of Verlander to the way Stassi called a game. McCullers was also unhappy with him. Apparently, Hinch thinks Maldonado and McCann are both better than Stassi since both are on the roster and Stassi was left off YOU are the only one here who keeps blasting Maldonado and praising Stassi, which proves my point about you being terrible at evaluating talent, especially catching. Screw you. Admit that you are full of shit and disappear. You keep on lying.........You have said repeatedly that you are "DONE" with me yet you keep up the same old bullshit. As I said, you are a damn liar. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 13:42:32 GMT -6
Screw you. Admit that you are full of shit and disappear. You keep on lying.........You have said repeatedly that you are "DONE" with me yet you keep up the same old bullshit. As I said, you are a damn liar.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 9, 2018 13:43:57 GMT -6
Screw you. Admit that you are full of shit and disappear. You keep on lying.........You have said repeatedly that you are "DONE" with me yet you keep up the same old bullshit. As I said, you are a damn liar. you can't handle the truth, can you asshole?  |
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Post by Saint on Oct 9, 2018 13:47:34 GMT -6
you can't handle the truth, can you asshole?  |
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