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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 23, 2019 21:54:53 GMT -6
What trades, if any, should the Astros make by the July 31 deadline?
As of today, it looks like pitching (both SP and RP) are the biggest needs. Miley/Peacock have been spotty at best as starters and it's unclear when or if Whitley can contribute at the big league level this year. There are some intriguing, yet untested, arms at Round Rock including Corbin Martin, Cy Sneed, and Brady Rodgers but they are... untested.
Infield looks solid, Outfield looks solid (well, some might say the Astros need a defensive upgrade over Brantley in LF), and Tyler White is holding down DH duties well with a .297 AVG.
At the C position, most everyone is happy with Chirinos but some might feel Stassi is too unproductive a hitter or doesn't have championship-quality defensive or game-calling skills.
Three players I'd like to see join the team this year are:
RP Craig Stammen (SD)
RP Will Smith (SF)
SP Madison Bumgarner (SF)
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 23, 2019 22:02:35 GMT -6
What trades, if any, should the Astros make by the July 31 deadline? As of today, it looks like pitching (both SP and RP) are the biggest needs. Miley/Peacock have been spotty at best as starters and it's unclear when or if Whitley can contribute at the big league level this year. There are some intriguing, yet untested, arms at Round Rock including Corbin Martin, Cy Sneed, and Brady Rodgers but they are... untested. Infield looks solid, Outfield looks solid (well, some might say the Astros need a defensive upgrade over Brantley in LF), and Tyler White is holding down DH duties well with a .297 AVG. At the C position, most everyone is happy with Chirinos but some might feel Stassi is too unproductive a hitter or doesn't have championship-quality defensive or game-calling skills. Three players I'd like to see join the team this year are: RP Craig Stammen (SD) RP Kirby Yates (SD) RP Will Smith (SF) SP Madison Bumgarner (SF) |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 23, 2019 22:25:51 GMT -6
A few players worth keeping an eye on --
RP Joe Biagini (TOR) has shown a lot of improvement coming out the gate this season. Let's see if he keeps it up through July. Doesn't turn FA till 2023 but he's already 28 so maybe TOR doesn't see him being a big contributor when they next become playoff contenders.
RP Reyes Moronta (SF) is pretty badass but he is young and has lots of years of control left, so he's more of a guy to watch for a trade in the 2021-23 seasons.
RP Carlos Estevez (COL) didn't pitch in 2018 due to oblique issues, but this year has shown a big uptick in K's. He turns FA in 2023 and the Rockies ought be stockpiling prospects now, so maybe there is the basis for a deal here.
RP Mychal Givens (BAL) comes up in trade discussions year after year, and for good reason... He becomes FA in 2022 and serves little purpose on the current Orioles team. If there is a 'proven reliever' in this year's crop of trade targets, Givens has to be near the top of the list.
On the SP side it's a lot more sparse... Sonny Gray from the Reds and Zach Greinke from Arizona are looking good out of the gate and make some sense to trade.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 23, 2019 22:42:24 GMT -6
Tucker for Realmuto.  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 23, 2019 23:47:03 GMT -6
Astros need help for Pressly and Osuna. Harris is the only solid reliever right now outside those two, but we all know he fizzles out toward the end of the season.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 24, 2019 0:22:31 GMT -6
Astros need help for Pressly and Osuna. Harris is the only solid reliever right now outside those two, but we all know he fizzles out toward the end of the season. Givens would be the first guy I'd try to trade for to be that set-up reliever for Pressly/Osuna. Givens' strikeouts are way up this year and he is pitching like he can keep his ERA under 3.00. Not only that, he is accustomed to getting 6 outs instead of only 3. So you could put him in there in either the 6th or 7th inning, then hand it off to Pressly for the 8th. Givens has closing experience from Baltimore so I think that gives him some mental toughness that you wouldn't find in every pitcher. Elias is too smart to not trade Givens this year. Why the previous Orioles management held onto him, I have no idea. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 24, 2019 7:20:29 GMT -6
Tucker for Realmuto. :’( |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 24, 2019 7:22:00 GMT -6
Astros need help for Pressly and Osuna. Harris is the only solid reliever right now outside those two, but we all know he fizzles out toward the end of the season. Givens would be the first guy I'd try to trade for to be that set-up reliever for Pressly/Osuna. Givens' strikeouts are way up this year and he is pitching like he can keep his ERA under 3.00. Not only that, he is accustomed to getting 6 outs instead of only 3. So you could put him in there in either the 6th or 7th inning, then hand it off to Pressly for the 8th. Givens has closing experience from Baltimore so I think that gives him some mental toughness that you wouldn't find in every pitcher. Elias is too smart to not trade Givens this year. Why the previous Orioles management held onto him, I have no idea. Sounds good. I’m a little tired of the status quo in the bullpen. Do you think Keuchel could come back, or would that be expensively redundant with Miley already in the rotation? |
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Post by Saint on Apr 24, 2019 8:35:56 GMT -6
At this point, I'd say we need another reliable shutdown reliever at least. If James isn't right we need some starting pitch depth too.
Greinke is still somebody we should consider, imo.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 24, 2019 8:37:24 GMT -6
I don't think they can fit Greinke in under the lux tax, without trading another big contract.
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Post by Saint on Apr 24, 2019 8:47:24 GMT -6
Depends on how much money we would have to eat.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 24, 2019 9:06:09 GMT -6
At this point, I'd say we need another reliable shutdown reliever at least. If James isn't right we need some starting pitch depth too. Greinke is still somebody we should consider, imo. Agreed, the last thing we need is a worn down Pressly or Osuna. Despite the diminished velocity, Greinke can still pitch. I wouldn’t mind it, but it would probably mean farewell to Cole. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 24, 2019 9:38:20 GMT -6
I'd put the odds of a Keuchel reunion at around 10%. There are plenty of reasons not to do it. But maybe there is a point at which Luhnow views him as the best option out there for an SP3 or SP4, and at which Keuchel also feels there is a face-saving way to return to MMP. He has to have gone through a lot of emotions these past several months, and anger with Boras is one of them. So the anger might help inspire him to sign, I dunno. He always seemed rather childish to me, so he's hard to figure out.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 24, 2019 9:41:54 GMT -6
I'd put the odds of a Keuchel reunion at around 10%. There are plenty of reasons not to do it. But maybe there is a point at which Luhnow views him as the best option out there for an SP3 or SP4, and at which Keuchel also feels there is a face-saving way to return to MMP. He has to have gone through a lot of emotions these past several months, and anger with Boras is one of them. So the anger might help inspire him to sign, I dunno. He always seemed rather childish to me, so he's hard to figure out. I hope a Keuchel reunion is 0% |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Apr 24, 2019 10:21:20 GMT -6
Tucker for Realmuto. Better see a gynecologist. You might have 'VD'. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 24, 2019 10:23:11 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 24, 2019 11:39:11 GMT -6
Tucker for Realmuto. Better see a gynecologist. You might have 'VD'. That was good. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 24, 2019 11:55:25 GMT -6
I'd put the odds of a Keuchel reunion at around 10%. There are plenty of reasons not to do it. But maybe there is a point at which Luhnow views him as the best option out there for an SP3 or SP4, and at which Keuchel also feels there is a face-saving way to return to MMP. He has to have gone through a lot of emotions these past several months, and anger with Boras is one of them. So the anger might help inspire him to sign, I dunno. He always seemed rather childish to me, so he's hard to figure out. Gio Gonzalez returned to the Brewers. That’s one less spot for Keuchel. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Apr 24, 2019 12:38:57 GMT -6
I'd put the odds of a Keuchel reunion at around 10%. There are plenty of reasons not to do it. But maybe there is a point at which Luhnow views him as the best option out there for an SP3 or SP4, and at which Keuchel also feels there is a face-saving way to return to MMP. He has to have gone through a lot of emotions these past several months, and anger with Boras is one of them. So the anger might help inspire him to sign, I dunno. He always seemed rather childish to me, so he's hard to figure out. Gio Gonzalez returned to the Brewers. That’s one less spot for Keuchel. True, but he left the Yankees, so now there's one more spot for Keuchel ... in the Yankees minor league system.  |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 24, 2019 12:56:29 GMT -6
Gio Gonzalez returned to the Brewers. That’s one less spot for Keuchel. True, but he left the Yankees, so now there's one more spot for Keuchel ... in the Yankees minor league system. so what would Tigers fans think of Kemp-to-Detroit, replacing Harrison at 2B? |
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Post by Saint on Apr 24, 2019 13:47:40 GMT -6
I'd put the odds of a Keuchel reunion at around 10%. There are plenty of reasons not to do it. But maybe there is a point at which Luhnow views him as the best option out there for an SP3 or SP4, and at which Keuchel also feels there is a face-saving way to return to MMP. He has to have gone through a lot of emotions these past several months, and anger with Boras is one of them. So the anger might help inspire him to sign, I dunno. He always seemed rather childish to me, so he's hard to figure out. Gio Gonzalez returned to the Brewers. That’s one less spot for Keuchel. How does a healthy starting pitcher whose WORST season since becoming a full-time starter is a 177 IP and a 4.57 ERA (93 ERA+) only get $2 million when so many people are so in need of pitching... |
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Post by talshill on Apr 24, 2019 15:01:04 GMT -6
At this point, I'd say we need another reliable shutdown reliever at least. If James isn't right we need some starting pitch depth too. Greinke is still somebody we should consider, imo. Agreed, the last thing we need is a worn down Pressly or Osuna. Despite the diminished velocity, Greinke can still pitch. I wouldn’t mind it, but it would probably mean farewell to Cole. Cole leaving is a forgone |
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Post by talshill on Apr 24, 2019 15:01:23 GMT -6
Conclusion. Oops.
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Post by Saint on Apr 24, 2019 15:27:23 GMT -6
Unless the Astros offer him more money than anybody else. Which I don't see happening...
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Apr 24, 2019 15:39:22 GMT -6
True, but he left the Yankees, so now there's one more spot for Keuchel ... in the Yankees minor league system. so what would Tigers fans think of Kemp-to-Detroit, replacing Harrison at 2B? Not sure why you quoted that rather than just tagging me. It doesn't relate to Gio or Dallas.
Josh has some decent moments in his history as well as some not so decent times. But he does have a couple of years as an all star. He's cheap enough, $2 million plus another million possible with incentive bonuses. Only on contract for one year, so it looks like he's a reclamation project we hope to flip at the deadline.
Neither Josh nor Tony hit the ground running this season. Josh just tore up Red Sox pitching in the double header yesterday. Two games isn't much to go on, but he also adds some solid defense to the equation. Tony is still off the rails at the plate and I don't know much about his defense. Seems like a non-descript utility man type.
One nice checkbox filled on Tony, he's minimum wage this season and probably next. I don't think he'll have enough ML service time to get an arb as a Super-2 this winter. So the Tigers would be able to use him cheap for a couple of years and see if he pans out. If he doesn't they could just non-tender him winter after next.
I reckon the Tiger won't be in a hurry to move Josh until close to the deadline though. Probably hoping he hits his stride and they might net a prospect with moderate potential who doesn't have a ticking clock.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 24, 2019 16:01:21 GMT -6
Agreed, the last thing we need is a worn down Pressly or Osuna. Despite the diminished velocity, Greinke can still pitch. I wouldn’t mind it, but it would probably mean farewell to Cole. Cole leaving is a forgone |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 24, 2019 16:10:08 GMT -6
Cole leaving is a forgone If Cole would take a 4 year extension now, I would be for it. 4 year, 100M deal...with a 5th year team option of 25M. |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 24, 2019 16:35:29 GMT -6
If Cole has a down year he could be landed on a 4-yr deal. With the market for long contracts for SP the way it's been of late If Cole would take a 4 year extension now, I would be for it. 4 year, 100M deal...with a 5th year team option of 25M. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 24, 2019 21:08:08 GMT -6
Cole leaving is a forgone Homeboy needs to get more break on that curve. |
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Post by m240 on Apr 25, 2019 6:57:44 GMT -6
He does seem to have lost the feel for the curve this year.
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