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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 27, 2019 15:16:39 GMT -6
Trout is arguably the best of his generation. To suggest the writers would give him the MVP cause of what happened to the team kind of insults that Can you imagine if Trout did play a team on the East Coast. With the majority of Baseball fans not tuned into the West Coast time period. He spends most of his winter time in NJ, I really never thought he would extend in LA. He could have gotten the same amount and probably more playing out his contract and then sign with the Phillies. He must like it where he is to finish his career. The Yankees would’ve given him the whole bank plus part ownership. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Sept 27, 2019 15:22:41 GMT -6
Can you imagine if Trout did play a team on the East Coast. With the majority of Baseball fans not tuned into the West Coast time period. He spends most of his winter time in NJ, I really never thought he would extend in LA. He could have gotten the same amount and probably more playing out his contract and then sign with the Phillies. He must like it where he is to finish his career. The Yankees would’ve given him the whole bank plus part ownership. As long as the Yes Network is part of their organization seen across the country, they can eat 300 million contract. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 27, 2019 19:25:42 GMT -6
Trout is arguably the best of his generation. To suggest the writers would give him the MVP cause of what happened to the team kind of insults that Can you imagine if Trout did play a team on the East Coast. With the majority of Baseball fans not tuned into the West Coast time period. He spends most of his winter time in NJ, I really never thought he would extend in LA. He could have gotten the same amount and probably more playing out his contract and then sign with the Phillies. He must like it where he is to finish his career.
cause he was injured |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 27, 2019 19:53:40 GMT -6
Can you imagine if Trout did play a team on the East Coast. With the majority of Baseball fans not tuned into the West Coast time period. He spends most of his winter time in NJ, I really never thought he would extend in LA. He could have gotten the same amount and probably more playing out his contract and then sign with the Phillies. He must like it where he is to finish his career.
cause he was injuredDoes Trout have a hoochie coochie mama and a hidden sexually transmitted disease? |
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Post by Saint on Sept 30, 2019 8:39:45 GMT -6
I really think Bregman should get it now. The one thing that was so highly touted with Trout was his WAR and Bregman ended up passing him 8.4 to 8.3.
What a fantastic all-around season for the guy.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 30, 2019 8:42:20 GMT -6
I really think Bregman should get it now. The one thing that was so highly touted with Trout was his WAR and Bregman ended up passing him 8.4 to 8.3. What a fantastic all-around season for the guy. The BB/K ratio is also very impressive. The strikeouts are a negative with Trout’s game. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 30, 2019 8:47:31 GMT -6
I really think Bregman should get it now. The one thing that was so highly touted with Trout was his WAR and Bregman ended up passing him 8.4 to 8.3. What a fantastic all-around season for the guy. The BB/K ratio is also very impressive. The strikeouts are a negative with Trout’s game. The biggest knock that I feel should put Bregman over the top is the games played. 134 to 156. That's a lot of missed time for an MVP. Trout was going to have the better season than Bregman, but it doesn't matter if he didn't play a full season. All that being said, if Springer hadn't missed 40 games I think he might have been the best choice. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 30, 2019 8:50:17 GMT -6
The BB/K ratio is also very impressive. The strikeouts are a negative with Trout’s game. The biggest knock that I feel should put Bregman over the top is the games played. 134 to 156. That's a lot of missed time for an MVP. Trout was going to have the better season than Bregman, but it doesn't matter if he didn't play a full season. All that being said, if Springer hadn't missed 40 games I think he might have been the best choice. Springer’s injury was a shame. He was definitely the team MVP before injury. Pedro Martinez agrees with you on the time missed being a factor. He thinks three weeks is way too much time missed to win the award. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 30, 2019 12:36:00 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Sept 30, 2019 14:25:51 GMT -6
And just like with the CY, if it comes down to that close, the person that puts in more time is more deserving.
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Post by Saint on Sept 30, 2019 14:45:54 GMT -6
If the MVP was about straight offense, Trout would still have the edge in my opinion. But if you factor in defense, Bregman ended up having the better all-around season. Trout was on pace for a better year, most likely, but we'll never know since he missed 30 games.
I don't want to get my hopes up too high, but I really think Bregman has a good chance.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 30, 2019 14:53:44 GMT -6
If the MVP was about straight offense, Trout would still have the edge in my opinion. But if you factor in defense, Bregman ended up having the better all-around season. Trout was on pace for a better year, most likely, but we'll never know since he missed 30 games. I don't want to get my hopes up too high, but I really think Bregman has a good chance. Bregman deserves it.....we just have to wait. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 30, 2019 14:58:28 GMT -6
I remember when a few people on our board really didn't care too much for Bregman.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 30, 2019 15:08:21 GMT -6
I remember when a few people on our board really didn't care too much for Bregman. I'm one of them. I still don't like him. I appreciate and recognize his exceptional talent, but I think he has a shitty "bro" personality. Just like I said back then. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 30, 2019 15:17:08 GMT -6
I remember when a few people on our board really didn't care too much for Bregman. I don't care for some of his social media shenanigans, but you can't complain about his talent, production, and hard work. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 30, 2019 16:09:02 GMT -6
I remember when a few people on our board really didn't care too much for Bregman. I'm one of them. I still don't like him. I appreciate and recognize his exceptional talent, but I think he has a shitty "bro" personality. Just like I said back then. I was not calling anyone out btw. |
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Post by sempersmom on Sept 30, 2019 16:22:44 GMT -6
I'm one of them. I still don't like him. I appreciate and recognize his exceptional talent, but I think he has a shitty "bro" personality. Just like I said back then. I was not calling anyone out btw. I love Bregman. Love his attitude and the way he plays. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 30, 2019 16:26:37 GMT -6
I was not calling anyone out btw. I love Bregman. Love his attitude and the way he plays. Well, no shit. |
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Post by churchill on Sept 30, 2019 16:27:14 GMT -6
The MVP is an individual award, not a Team award. That's what pennants and rings are for. Just as the Cy Young and ROY awards are individual awards.
Verlander and Cole had as much or more to do with the success of the Astros as Bregman. The Astros had the best rotation in the AL, ROY, and really good position supporting cast. Don't get me wrong Bregman had a great season, but if Trout hadn't missed the final 3 weeks or if they occurred near the beginning of the season this wouldn't be a conversation.
Even Trout missing the last 3 weeks it was his best season yet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 17:28:58 GMT -6
I remember when a few people on our board really didn't care too much for Bregman. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 17:46:22 GMT -6
Alex Bregman, Not Mike Trout, Deserves the AL MVP Awardby Vincent Page Mike Trout is the best baseball player in the world, and I genuinely thought I’d be writing about why he still deserves the American League Most Valuable Player award despite ending the season three weeks early. However, it pains me to type that Mike Trout might not be most deserving of the AL MVP this season. While you can make a phenomenal case for Trout to win the award, and maybe even make the right case, Alex Bregman has an awfully compelling case as well. Let’s get this out of the way right now. Mike Trout was... Click here for article at Halo Hangout
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Post by talshill on Sept 30, 2019 19:39:22 GMT -6
I think Trout will probably win it, but Bregman has a mediocre chance. Whether the player is on a winning team or not doesn't matter to me much, but durability does. Bregman has probably been more valuable to the Astros because he's been playing every day. Trout has provided zero production for about 20% of the season (and on average, the last 3 seasons), which is a huge chunk. I once had a Mercedes, and it was an awesome car. All the bells and whistles. When it functioned correctly, it was unbeatable. Problem is, it didn't function right a good chunk of the time and was expensive to fix. The next car I bought was not as awesome, but it was more valuable to me because it worked.
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Post by talshill on Sept 30, 2019 19:42:31 GMT -6
The MVP is an individual award, not a Team award. That's what pennants and rings are for. Just as the Cy Young and ROY awards are individual awards.
Verlander and Cole had as much or more to do with the success of the Astros as Bregman. The Astros had the best rotation in the AL, ROY, and really good position supporting cast. Don't get me wrong Bregman had a great season, but if Trout hadn't missed the final 3 weeks or if they occurred near the beginning of the season this wouldn't be a conversation.
Even Trout missing the last 3 weeks it was his best season yet.
Trout is the best player in baseball when he's on the field. Seems like a great guy with his head on straight. I hope his durability issues become a thing of the past because I'd love to see a full season of production from him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 1, 2019 19:03:29 GMT -6
I remember when a few people on our board really didn't care too much for Bregman. When you talk a lot or call attention to yourself often, you better back it up. At first he was not doing as well as he was in AAA and was annoying. Now, he more than backs it up so he’s not a problem at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 19:09:51 GMT -6
I remember when a few people on our board really didn't care too much for Bregman. I'm one of them. I still don't like him. I appreciate and recognize his exceptional talent, but I think he has a shitty "bro" personality. Just like I said back then. White guys who wear their hats on backwards, flash finger signs, and start every other sentence with Yo..... What's not to like?  |
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Post by Saint on Oct 1, 2019 19:14:51 GMT -6
Whoa whoa, nothing wrong with backward hats. Griffey Jr. did it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 19:26:48 GMT -6
Whoa whoa, nothing wrong with backward hats. Griffey Jr. did it. If it helped him hit over 600 home runs, I think he desrves a pass. Otherwise anyone else who wears it backwards must have a vulnerable scruff of the neck. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 1, 2019 19:28:37 GMT -6
I can do without some of Bregman's antics and the fact that he leans to the left politically, but, I love bow he plays and what he brings to the team. He produces in the clutch and you can tell he is always into the game emotionally and mentally. He rarely makes mental mistakes.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 1, 2019 19:37:10 GMT -6
Whoa whoa, nothing wrong with backward hats. Griffey Jr. did it. What I do is to try to take my hat and and I turn around, and it's like a switch that goes on. And when the switch goes on, I feel like another person, I feel, I don't know, I feel like a ....feel like a truck...Like a machine |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 1, 2019 19:46:00 GMT -6
Whoa whoa, nothing wrong with backward hats. Griffey Jr. did it. What I do is to try to take my hat and and I turn around, and it's like a switch that goes on. And when the switch goes on, I feel like another person, I feel, I don't know, I feel like a ....feel like a truck...Like a machine  |
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